Period Repair Manual with Author Dr. Lara Briden!

What causes a woman with PCOS to have her period go missing? What can she do about it?

Dr. Lara Briden, author of Period Repair Manual, joins us to discuss her top tips to get your period back, what the pill is doing to our bodies, and the top natural contraception methods aside from birth control!

A naturopathic doctor with over 20 years of experience, Dr. Lara Briden teaches women how to naturally treat their hormones for better periods and provides actionable solutions using nutrition and supplementation.

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Full Episode transcript:

All right, babe. Let’s take a moment to correct our posture. Take a deep breath and have some pure spectrum CBD. Sure. Hey Cysters CBD can help with acne inflammation, anxiety asleep, and so many other PCs symptoms. I personally take it throughout the day to help keep my stress hormones nice and low. Not to mention I sleep like a baby every night and I don’t wake up fatigued at all.

Now open your mouth, please. So I can give you a serving. Now, hold it for 60 seconds. Head over to pure spectrum cbd.com and use the code, the sisterhood one word for 10% off. Can I stop now? Nope. You got 30 more seconds. Welcome sisters to another episode of a sister and her Mister today. We have Dr.

Laura Brighton with us. She is a naturopathic doctor and she’s leading a period revolution. She has a strong science background and over 20 years of experience and her book, the period repair manual teaches women how to naturally treat their hormones for better periods and provides actionable solutions using nutrition and supplementation. This episode will be life-changing for you. If you’re having period problems,

we’ll chat about what the pill is doing to your body, her top tips to get your period back and the top natural contraception methods aside from birth control. Welcome Dr. Brighton. Welcome. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, your, your book, that period repair manual has been on our coffee table for the last few months as we’ve been like reading it,

like studying it to like PR also prepare, you know, this podcast as well. So thank you for writing that amazing book. Thanks. Yeah, it’s super interesting for me because I’ve had PCO S for a while now, and I used to have really irregular periods and my sister has PCOS too, and she’s in the process of getting off the pill and regulating her period.

And there’s just so many good tips in this book that can be easily applied to our lifestyle. However, it’s not as mainstream when women who have PCs go to the doctor and they’re prescribed birth control, or they tell their doctor, they want to go off birth control. They’re not really handed any natural solutions of course, because that’s not the gynecologist’s specialty,

but we’re lucky to have women like you in the field, you know, leading the way and creating a path for us to learn more and take charge with our bodies. Yeah. What pushed you towards writing a book about natural ways to regulate periods instead of birth control? My patients, my work with patients, even though I love speaking. I love writing my,

my day to day work with patients for the last 25 years has been my first love. I get to hear all their stories. I get to hear, you know, what works for them, what doesn’t work for them. And after about 20 years of doing that, I thought, I just need to share some of this with women who can’t be my patient so that they know there are other solutions that work for PCFS and also other conditions,

endometriosis and other problems like that. Yeah. That’s like similar to why Tallinn created her. Instagram was she saw many, many women like her go through the same problems with PCs. So we, she wanted to kind of open up a pathway for people to learn and get better resources than, you know, what’s happening. For sure. Yeah. Because as you’ve pointed out,

there are not a lot of solutions forthcoming from the doctor’s offices right now. I just wanted to comment on that, that I might just jump right into it. That being prescribed the pill for PCs in my view is pretty crazy actually, because I’ll just say why, like, you know, the pro PCRs is a condition of not being able to ovulate regularly and tending to insulin resistance and contraceptive drugs,

suppress ovulation and promote insulin resistance. So even though they mask the problem by giving fake pills leads, they don’t, and they can suppress androgens too. We can talk about that. Certain types of pills can, but they don’t correct the underlying problem at all. And I was so disappointed to see when the international guidelines for PCOS treatment came out a couple of years ago that the pill was still very central in that.

And I just thought this, I thought this is going to take a while for this to change, but there are, I’ll just assure you, there are other ways of thinking coming, even in the conventional mode, I just coauthored a paper with a scientific colleague of mine. Who’s looking at, you know, non pill options for PCs. So there are things coming and even in the international guidelines matter if you know this,

but for PSUs treatment, they mentioned and also tol yeah, and also tell has made it it’s crossed the threshold into what’s called evidence-based medicine into, so it should be there. And the gynecologist’s office, you know, looking at that and as a caution, even with PCs, the gynecologist’s office is not really where this condition should be discussed. Anyway, it’s an endocrinology condition.

So for any of your viewers and listeners, if you’re going to see a specialist for PCO, as it really should be an endocrinologist, which means a hormone specialist, rather than a female anatomy, Would they also prescribe birth control? Would you find that endocrinologist goes the same route? My experience is no. So I work in, I live in New Zealand,

I’ve worked, you know, a lot of my clinical years were spent in Sydney, Australia, where there were some actually quite good endocrinologist. And it’s so if my patients were lucky enough to get in with one of the hormone specialists, they would come back with phrasing like, Oh, my doctor said, the pill is not good for PCs. You know,

I’ve been given Metformin instead, which I actually think Metformin is a reasonable option. You know, we can tell her, yeah, it’s better than the pill, at least exactly. Trying to correct an underlying driver of the condition. Yeah. Can you tell our audience because I’m sure many women out there right now are treating PCOS with birth control. Can you talk more about what it’s doing to our bodies as women with PCOS?

Yeah. Well, as all women, you know, it’s the world. Yeah, no. And with PCs as well. So we’re in this, we’re locked in this strange narrative or paradigm where I’m going to, I think in future future generations will look back and call it the, the strange era of contraceptive drugs that went on for 70 or 80 years,

I guess it’ll probably be by the time it comes to an end where these drugs and I call them drugs because they’re not real hormones that are in the pill or the ring or the patch. They are hormone analogs that interact with our hormonal system, the drugs, they sh they work. Most of them work by primarily by shutting down ovarian function, essentially switching it off,

essentially creating a temporary chemical menopause, which, you know, in men would be equivalent to shutting down testosterone and then replacing it with a drug that’s kind of like testosterone, but a little bit actually like estrogen. And, you know, you just see how you go on that. That’s kind of what we do to women right now. And so in an attempt to address the symptoms,

I get it, you know, the symptoms of facial hair and the symptoms of irregular periods, these drugs are being given, but they’re not, they’re not fixing the underlying problem in the case of PCs, they’re often worsening the underlying problem. And then, you know, you eventually, unless you’re going to stay on those drugs all the way through, till menopause,

you’re eventually going to have to come off them. And the PCO is still there. And in the case of some of the drugs, the PCRs is arguably quite a bit worse from having been on them, creates like a snowball effect. Yeah. And the other part of it is just the wording. It’s very important. Words are very important to me.

So one of my things I say in the book, and I’ve just said today on Instagram, again, is hell bleeds are not periods. So if the goal is to have a menstrual cycle of regular menstrual cycle, which most women kind of want, they know, intuitively know that’s a sign of health, that’s something they want having a monthly dosed pill.

Withdrawal bleed means nothing like you’ve gained nothing. It’s just an induced bleed. So it kind of, even in the literature, even the official kind of scientific literature, they talk about re you know, giving a monthly blade to reassure women, which is a false reassurance. It’s not a period. It doesn’t take up a menstrual cycle is a cycle in which ovulation was the main event.

And you obviously, and then you make progesterone, which is very different than the progestin drugs in hormonal birth control. The beauty, the beautiful thing about progesterone it’s antique in women or women are the only ones who really make it it’s anti-androgen. So it has a beneficial anti testosterone anti-androgen effect. So actually having strong ovulations regular populations and making lots of progesterone is the way out of PCs for a lot of women,

right? It’s it’s actually, our progesterone is supposed to kick in, in our, you know, late teens let’s, you know, get to quite high levels by our twenties. And that is a self-correcting mechanism to correct an underlying tendency to progesterone. You can actually also TA or tip to, to PCs. You can also take progesterone, which is interesting.

We can talk about a little bit later in the yeah. Well, women with PCLs struggled to make enough progesterone and opulate then you take birth control and that just strips you away from the opportunity to even fix that problem. Exactly. You can just forget about it. It robs you birth control robs you of progesterone. It’s just to say again, the predestines the drugs in hormonal birth control are not progesterone.

I feel like if that one piece of information could get out there into the world and even into doctors, don’t kind of seem to understand that that would start to change the conversation around when to tell I read in your book, how progestin, which they’re using in birth control instead of progesterone, like you said, actually influences our mood and depression, whereas progesterone would have uplifted your mood and made you feel less depressed.

And just as part of the reason why birth control is affecting women’s moods and it’s, and they’re still not like coming out and saying it as loudly as we’d like them to that birth control has such an influence on women’s moods throughout over the years. Women take you for like 10 years. They have no idea that it’s affecting them so profoundly until they get off.

And it’s like the clouds parted The clouds part, and I’ve collected some of the quotes from my patients getting off the pill and different things. They’ve said, like, I came back to myself, my favorite was I came off the pill and it felt like a curse was lifted, which is quite profound. Yeah. Yeah. And I Believe I’m correct me if I’m wrong,

but birth Control the conception, the thought behind it was to kind of control, you know, birth, birth rates. It wasn’t really meant to like balance hormones and things of that nature, but that I guess became like the, the, the strategy behind the marketing later on. Correct? Yeah. Well, it was never indented to balance hormones, which of course it was,

I mean, it was invented as contraception. There’s a bit of a history, there are different motivations for that, but definitely was its purpose was to help women avoid pregnancy, which is achieved. But then weirdly, you know, decades later we’ve got this whole narrative around it that it can regulate periods or felon hormones, which is absolutely crazy because they could never do that.

Right. And the early doctors knew it couldn’t do that. In fact, they, you know, they had to sort of be sold on the idea that it wasn’t been safe to take. Yeah. You have a great quote in your book that I grabbed. And I just want to say it prions. You said birth control is a Relic from the 1950s when people had different ideas about things.

For example, they thought smoking was okay, why should we have to shut down our whole hormonal system just to prevent pregnancy? Exactly. That’s amazing. That’s that was a great quote. Yeah. What are some other options that you would encourage women to try even women with PCOS? Because it’s so hard to ovulate and detect oblation when you’re struggling with PCLs.

So what type of contraception would you prefer or recommend? Well, yeah, well, listen, there’s a few non-hormonal methods of contraception. It’s where I always say at the outset, there needs to be more, we have a few non-hormonal methods and we need more, you know, the fact there’s a big, actually I would say gap in the research,

like where have the scientists been? And the different reasons for that. There’s not a lot of funding for alternative methods. You know, a lot of the ideas seems to be, well, we’ve got hormonal birth control. We’re good. Now. Like we don’t have to invest in other methods, but there should be other methods. One of the examples I like to give is the,

it hasn’t come to market, but there’s a drug that’s been proposed that would work by altering sperm motility. So men would take it. It wouldn’t affect men’s hormones at all. It wouldn’t shut down their testicular function because why would you do that? That’s cruel. Instead, it just works on, you know, more fine tuned for, you know, what’s involved in fertility.

And like, there could be so many different things like that that could avoid pregnancy without shutting down the hormones of anyone. So Yeah. I Really like to see some new methods come. I think they will come eventually, but currently just quickly, you know, cause I want to make sure we’ve got time to talk about other things, but there are obviously condoms which do work.

I’ve just I’ve for what it’s worth. I’m saying it out there because I have a lot of young women, at least in my Australian practice who know where they got the idea, they seem to have been told that condoms don’t work like condoms work. They have to make sure they fit that it’s a good quality one that it’s not, you know, past its expiry date and all those normal things,

but then condoms work. And as I think it’s reasonable to have the morning after pill as a backup plan to condoms. Like I think the morning after pill is just a big dose of a progestin. So my thinking is if you have to take the morning after pill never, or once in two years, it’s still better than taking the same drug. Yeah.

Yeah. What about the Daisy fertility tracker recommend that for women who PCOM? Yeah. It’s in my book. Yeah. So it’s so that that’s one method of what’s called fertility awareness method based methods of avoiding pregnancy, which there several, but Daisy has a little computer device. Do you have a Daisy? Do you have one, One? Do I use it though?

Do I not to start using it? Okay. Yeah. So it’s based on the idea that as women we’re fertile only really only one day per cycle, but actually six days because sperm lives from five days. So you definitely have to allow for that. So men are for tell every day, women are only fertile for a few days. So it’s based on the idea that you can identify those days.

You, I always say I’m very careful to say, you need to take steps to properly identify those days. You can’t just look on your like period app and go, Oh, it says my I’m ovulating approximately now, like you cannot rely on that. You need to either learn how to do it tracking what’s called cervical fluid or checking temperatures, which is what Daisy does and knowing when you’re fertile and when you’re not.

And then the efficacy rate is very high. So then when you’re fertile, then the next step is when you are for to hell, you have to either abstain or use condoms or you know, or withdrawal, I guess, you know, those are the sort of options in that window. And then on the other days, when Daisy gives you a green light and you don’t have to use anything,

which is definitely an advantage, it means your own liens and condoms. Some of the time Wine for a minute, for the women with PCLs who are struggling to ovulate and are having an obvious Latorre cycles or irregular periods, what can a woman with PCOS do about it and why are our periods missing? Because it seems like the second we start our periods,

you know, we’re 16 years old or something, and then it starts going regularly and then we’re given birth control. We don’t even have a chance to figure out what’s happening and we’re, we’re starting to become body literate at 25 or 30 days later. So can you, you know, explain what’s happening? Yes. Okay. So as you know, in my book,

peer to peer Emmanuel, I come at it with different kind of functional types of PCs. So the question is, I see, you know, you know, you’re not ovulating with PCs often, obviously there it’s, you know, there’s some cases where you can have high androgens qualify for a diagnosis of PCs, but you are ambulating regularly. That’s less common,

but usually there’s not regular ovulation. You know, the high androgens are part of that. The high male hormones are impeding ovulation. Those high male hormones can get set up from different way different mechanisms, right? Like there’s a genetic component. There’s, you know, there’s some exposure to environmental toxins in utero, probably. I think that’s actually one of the big ones that’s happening.

Like I grow as a fetus inside your mom, you were potentially exposed to what are called endocrine disruptors or things that alter the calibration of the hormonal system. That seems to be where the evidence is pointing, which is nothing your mum did wrong. Right. It’s just it’s to start modern world. So then, and also if your mom tended to high androgens herself,

then that amplifies in the, so we are seeing more of it, I think generation by generation kind of amplifying. So if you’ve got that tendency to hire male hormones already, that’s going to already kind of put a, put the brakes on population, not completely. I mean, you could still opulate, but it takes a little bit more, I won’t say work,

but like a little bit, you have to have everything else working really well to overcome that obstacle of the high entrance. So it’s about identifying why you’re not ovulating. And in my subtypes, in my book, I go through them the big one, of course, I’m sure all your viewers know all about insulin resistance is a major driver of an ovulation.

So that needs to be addressed reversed. All of this is reversible. I would argue that in its entirety is reversible. As you can, as you can reverse out of the symptoms, you’ll always have the tendency, which you might outgrow to some extent, but it doesn’t mean you’ll always have the condition. Would you agree? Like, you know,

I think once you’re done, you don’t really qualify for a PCs diagnosis anymore. Right? I feel like that’s my situation. However, if I start changing my lifestyle and going back to what I used to do, eating gluten dairy and not managing stress, these are the things that really drive my symptoms. So it can just come right back. Yeah,

it can. And I think a lot of women will it, depending on the driver, you know, with the non it’s possible, you’ll outgrow it to some extent, like as you get later into, you know, into your later thirties and forties, especially if you don’t have insulin resistance, you’ll probably be less and less prone to PCOM symptoms. I would think it’s often what happens.

So the drivers are, you’ve got an underlying tendency to high engines for different reasons. Then the drivers are that I’ve identified in my clinical work or insulin resistance of temporary post pills situation, which of course ties into our earlier conversation, especially after Yasmin or Jasper known that category of anti-androgen drugs. You can get a surge of androgens that is temporary, usually just for a couple of years.

So yeah, it is a long time, unfortunately, that is a long time. Then the third type, which fits in very much to your work that I did is what I call inflammatory PCs has definitely a group, a category of PCs where the main driver seems to be these in this kind of immune and flip type of inflammation that you get from the gut or immune upsetting foods like gluten and dairy,

certainly that in some women that seems to drive a higher androgen state. So that’s what I call the inflammatory type. Then there’s a whole other category, which you may have encountered with your clients, but like this adrenal type of fish, which is actually really quite different, they often ovulate regularly. They just got, they’re pumping out high levels of adrenal androgens.

It’s a little bit different. They can also respond to anti-inflammatory treatment, but they usually need some anti-androgen supplements in place kind of all the time. And that is that mention of adrenal PCs just makes me want to say part of all of this process of treating PCOS is to really make sure you’ve been given the correct diagnosis. I just have to say this because as you know,

there’s a lot of confusion around PCs diagnosis and there are certainly lots of women out there who have PCs and don’t know it, and that’s a problem. And at the same time, there are women who’ve been told they have PCOS and don’t, and some of them are listening right now. So I’m speaking to them, you know, one category would be it’s to do with the adrenals.

So there’s another condition called adrenal hyperplasia, which is a genetic condition, which causes high androgens. The doctors are supposed to rule that out and they sometimes don’t. So if you’ve been, you know, really struggling, not getting, Results just not, nothing seems to be working for you. That’s supposed to work for PCs. You could say to your doctor,

have you ruled out adrenal hyperplasia, just checking. It’s a simple blood test, right? And then, because if that’s the situation you need to change course and go down that path. That’s one example. The second example of women who’ve been told they have PSUs and they don’t is under eating or hypothalamic amenorrhea. I have to say this because it it’s about TRIBEr state and it’s pretty disastrous situation.

If you’ve lost your period to under-eating and then you think you have PCs and you’re eating less to try to fix the problem, they’re never going to get their theory. And it’s, I see it quite a lot. And I, and so I just really want to mention that. And I just want to say the reason the confusion is happening is that some doctors,

fortunately, not all doctors, but subduction is make the mistake of diagnosing PCOS based on an ultrasound finding of polycystic ovaries. And you can’t do that as you know, you know, it’s with my patients, I basically take the position that the finding the ultrasound, finding a polycystic ovaries means nothing. Essentially anyone can have ovaries that appear polycystic because as you know,

they’re not cysts, it’s just a high a cat. It’s really just the high number of follicles or a high number of eggs, which are normal for the ovary normal when you’re young, especially, it’s really just showing the picture of a cycle in which you did not ovulate in that cycle and make the dominant follicle in that cycle. So your ovaries look like you didn’t obviate,

but it doesn’t mean they won’t always be. That doesn’t mean they’ll always be like that, right? Like you definitely having a cycle where you did an opulate just means you didn’t articulate that cycle. And hopefully in three months you will all be late in your ovaries will look normal. So I really can’t emphasize that enough. It’s created a lot of confusion and probably as you know,

a lot of controversy about even the name of the condition, because the name polycystic ovary is in the name of the condition, which it shouldn’t be, because it’s not about that. It’s actually just a condition of high male hormones. So yeah, hopefully You said it’s in three months, it can change the nature of your ovaries. And I read this part in your book,

how you said it takes a hundred days for that follicle to mature and there it needs the proper nutrition, proper insulin balance, proper lifestyle within those hundred days for that follicle to mature in and oblate and have healthy ovaries and women don’t with PCs, don’t even realize, because they’re not told this that you can be healed of the ovarian cysts, like the string of pearls,

these polycystic ovaries, it can all reverse. They don’t even know that because it’s so terrifying when they’re diagnosed. And yeah. True. Exactly what you said is exactly true. I just want to, cause I get it. It’s back to me being very kind of picky about what words I use. They’re not cysts. They’re really not like just to put it in perspective.

There, there is such thing as an ovarian cyst, as you know, which is larger than normal follicle, which can happen this all different kinds of ovarian cysts, some of them are kind of more serious. Some of them are not so serious, but a lot of your viewers may have had an ovarian cyst at some point in their past. That’s not what we’re talking about here.

These are not CIS. They re they truly are just follicles or eggs, which are normal for the ovaries. So it’s just a, it’s kind of a snapshot count of how many eggs are you producing that cycle? And it means nothing in terms of this condition or this diet or any diagnosis. It’s just this Snapshot that says you didn’t opulate for exactly past three months or whatever.

I used to think when I was diagnosed, I used to think because I had a ruptured ovarian cyst that I had a bunch of ovarian cysts that were going to rupture. And then I was sent to the hospital again, like I had no idea what this looked like, a string of pearls, like a string of a bunch of cysts that was going to rupture.

I know that’s a common experience. I get lots of patients say, Oh, just take it out. Take the sister. I’m like, no, no, no, it’s your ovary has eggs. That’s what an ovary is. It’s full of little, if you want to call them cysts, I mean eggs or SIS it’s yeah. It’s a really good example of how one time you had an ovarian cyst,

which is a thing, and then got confused about this diagnosis you would prevent. So I hope that helps. That’s why in my book, I have a flow chart of what type of PCs do you have? And the very first step is, is it truly PCs? And just to say again, PCs is defined as it’s very simple definition. Really it’s a condition of high male hormones when all other causes of bad have been ruled out.

And other causes of that could include adrenal hyperplasia, which we talked about. It could include thyroid problems or high prolactin or no, the doctor needs to rule those out. And none of them I’m telling you when I got diagnosed, none of that was ruled out. It was just like, Oh, it’s just, Oh, your ovaries look polycystic. Here’s some birth control done.

Yeah. It’s, it’s so common. It’s concerning. And I mean, I, you know, I, I, I work with lots of different kinds of period problems. I would say PCs to me in some ways, as one of the most heartbreaking in that such confusion in the ma the messaging from the medical community, doing such harm, I would argue and freaking women out a diagnosis that although,

you know, real and, you know, serious and need to get dressed is concerning. It’s not kind of what women are taking it to be. So, Yeah. And it w when you couple that with the diagnosis, taking a long time to kind of reverse, like the, it’s not a quick fix with PCO. So you need, like,

we’re talking about a hundred days, but usually, you know, three to six months, maybe a year changes. So that takes a lot of toll on a person who doesn’t know enough already to wait that long. Exactly. And The research has shown actually that the anxiety, the mental distress that women go through because of the diagnosis is a concern like even,

you know, scientists are concerned that that’s, that this activism and, you know, I guess diagnosis or pieces is creating such arguably unnecessary mental distress, and also women thinking they can never become pregnant. Yes. Totally not. Like just completely not the case. Like most women with PCOS diagnosis can become pregnant naturally. Like it’s, it’s Exactly right. Maybe at the moment when you were diagnosed.

Yeah. At the doctor’s office, maybe that at that moment, you’re not fertile. You’re not ovulating in that stuff. That’s but that doesn’t mean in three months, you won’t be, but then you leave there thinking that you’re completely broken. You have no idea what to do. And it’s just so Heartbreaking. Yeah. That’s what they told you. They said,

they told you, you’ll never be able to have a baby again. They never ever again, but she’s like, you can’t have kids, but she, maybe she meant that as right now, you can. Yeah. But you need to, like, went back to the doctor later and they said, what was it? You’re fertile as a salmon going up the rivers that way it’s brutal as a salmon swimming upstream.

Yeah. So how funny those two different statements, but like no explanation that that can actually improve that. That’s the, what we’re talking about right here. I remember going back and getting an ultrasound and she’s like, Oh, you don’t have any ovarian cyst anymore. And she was surprised. And I was like, why don’t you know that I could have reversed it?

Like, yeah. Now you’re shocked. I don’t have ovarian cysts. Like, yeah. Well, not that they’re not cysts. Sorry. they’re follicles. You haven’t, it’s like you have a different set of follicles the cycle compared to three months ago. That’s totally normal because the, yeah, the follicles of the eggs are constantly being made and then reabsorbed and yeah.

It’s just a very dynamic system in the ovary. Yeah. In your book, you state that they’re changing the name of they’re thinking of changing the name of PCOS. And one of the names that they’re thinking of is metabolic reproductive syndrome. And I would love if they named it that because they have it more, it makes women with PCs feel like it’s more about their metabolism,

their weight gain. Isn’t their fault. It’s not because they ate too much. And they got P cos like, you know, in practice, it really highlights the metabolic problems happening. Yeah. I agree. It’s a hormonal condition that promotes weight gain. Yeah. Yeah. For some women I saw in the first chapter of your book, you talk about an example of a patient who had skin conditions like psoriasis and as well as irregular periods.

And she went gluten free and her symptoms resolved and her period regulated. I loved that. That was in the first Chapter. Do you often see this type of Results with patients who go gluten or dairy free It? I I’m trying to put a number on it. I would it’s works fairly predictably. Well when someone has a gluten or dairy sensitivity. So I don’t want people to think that’s going to be a foolproof fix for whoever you are.

But if there’s evidence of particularly gluten sensitivity or celiac or non-celiac gluten sensitivity for those women, removing gluten is a total game changer for periods like affects. Everything goes really deep. So signs of gluten sensitivity, what gluten first would be psoriasis like in that patient story that I gave actually any autoimmune condition, which of which autoimmune is the situation where your immune system attacks your own tissue.

It’s actually pretty common in women. So another example is autoimmune thyroid, or what’s called Hashimoto’s. So for any of your viewers, like if they’ve been told they have a thyroid problem, the very first thing to ask is, is it autoimmune? Is it Hashi motives? Because that shines a light on the fact that gluten is a, not a cause,

but a driver of that condition. And therefore gluten is almost certainly affecting periods as well. I’d say like a true kind of gluten sensitivity. It’s the minority of women generally in the PCs population. I’m not so sure. I’d say it’s even, it’s not the majority it’s I don’t know. Maybe if he’d be too. Yeah. There’d probably be like a third.

I was going to say, or a quarter of women might need to think about that. The majority of the majority of women with PCOS it’s insulin resistance. So they know we’re just kind of the mainstream view. So they, and with insulin resistance, I just have to emphasize that it’s really important to test for that. You can’t just assume this is what you definitely don’t want to do.

You don’t want to say I have PCs, therefore I have insulin resistance and you don’t want to say someone saw polycystic ovaries. Therefore I have PCs. Therefore I have insulin resistance. Like that logic does not work at all. So the test for insulin resistance is to measure the hormone insulin. We talk about that in the book and not just assume you have it.

So it’s, it’s it’s you can see it’s important for choosing a treatment because if you have insulin resistance, then you focus on that. If you don’t have insulin resistance, then that’s when you’re in the territory of thinking, Oh wait, do I maybe have that inflammatory type of PCs that responds to gluten-free dairy-free and you can have both to some extent too.

Yeah. Yeah. You could have both and gluten and dairy can impact your insulin levels as well. And it’s true. It’s just worth giving a try and seeing if it’s going to help you. And it’s one of the easiest ways to figure out what’s happening. You don’t even have to like, you know, I would agree. I mean, I’m a naturopathic doctor,

so gluten-free dairy-free is kind of our one-on-one. Yeah. So we do for patients a lot of the time, just to kind of, not all patients, but yeah. It can quite helpful. Yes. Oh yes. Great. I think one of the last questions we had was about magnesium and I think we’re thinking of magnesium is like one of the best supplements for PCRs.

So why don’t you maybe expand on that for us Stated that it’s the number one supplement for a yeah. Yes, yes. It improves, well, it improves insulin sensitivity, like quite dramatically. I would say A lot of symptoms that have to do with like, like menstrual cramps and like with PMs and things like that, For sure. Like, it’s helpful for periods generally.

Oh. And that that’s, and I’ll keep talking about magnesium briefly, but I just want to say pain cause you mentioned menstrual cramps. So that’s really good to bring up. One of my other messages is pain is not a symptom of PCs. You can have both commonly you can have period pain and PQS, or you could have a condition called endometriosis and PCOS,

but the treatments for PCs, they can sometimes as a side benefit, help pain, certainly dairy free helps pain. But just to understand like if pain is your main symptom, there’s something else going on. It’s not just PCs. So that’s, I just wanted to kind of put that out there, but in terms of magnesium, yeah. It’s great for PMs as well,

mood it’s and it’s safe and it’s inexpensive and I prescribe it a lot. I would argue it has anti-androgen benefits. So does zinc actually those two simple minerals and have anti-androgen benefits. So yeah, there are simple to say again, inexpensive, a lot of my work I’ve been wanting it to be supplements that most people can access and buy and it’s not complicated.

So magnesium fits that category. Yeah. Awesome. Well, before we wrap up, I want to ask one last question. What would be your first piece of advice for a woman with PCs who’s listening right now? What can she do make like an actionable step towards bettering her health right now Have to say, confirm your diagnosis, like get, get it,

make sure you haven’t been misdiagnosed with these us. And beyond that, I guess I would say make us strategy that doesn’t involve contraceptive drugs because they’re holding you back in terms of recovering from this and probably an also tall Yeah. It’s, that’s three things, but, and, and also just to my final message will be, and we said this earlier,

but the closing message, it’s almost always reversible. So trust your body, understand that, you know, it’s a functional state that you can move out of and have normal periods, normal fertility. Yeah. And if people want to reach you or get in contact with you, is there, is there a resource that they can find online? Yeah, I’m easy to find.

So my blog Of which on which there are quite several PCs topics is my blog is Lara briden.com. All of my social media, Instagram, Twitter, or Facebook is at Laura Braedon and my book is period repair manual. Awesome. Awesome. Well, we’ll put that in the podcast subscription. So sisters, if you want to get in contact or go to the blog,

just go to the description of the podcast, right? Thank you so much for joining. Yeah. Thanks guys. It was great to meet you. It was nice to meet you too. All. Alrighty. Have a great day and speak to you soon. Bye bye. If you enjoyed listening to this podcast, you have to come check out the sisterhood.

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