Can Balancing Hormones Help With Weight Loss – Dr. Beth Westie

Today, we welcome Dr. Beth Westie! Dr. Beth Westie has made it her mission to help women use nutrition to work with their natural cycle to achieve lasting weight loss results. She spent years struggling with ovarian cysts, thyroid issues, and weight until she really dove into a background in Eastern Medicine. She has made it her mission to help women regain control of their health and nutrition! To learn more, click that play button above!

Dr. Beth Westie is the author of the best selling book, The Female Fat Solution, the creator of the Eat for Your Cycle Method and the host of The Female Health Solution Podcast. And you can find more resources & tools from Dr. Beth Westie on her website (, PodcastInstagram, Facebook, and YouTube!

If you’re interested in more information about Dr. Beth Westie’s best selling book and / or her popular 12 Week Challenge, read on! 

From our podcast today with Dr. Beth Westie, we learned that the answer to this question is yes, but it depends.

Since women with PCOS are predisposed to hormonal imbalances that affect weight, Cyster’s oftentimes experience weight gain and/or trouble losing weight. So, getting your hormones in check and making lifestyle changes to keep them in a more balanced state can most certainly help Cyster’s overcome weight issues. Especially weight issues can stem from insulin resistance and high cortisol levels.

However, for women with PCOS, hormonal imbalances may not be the only cause of weight gain / trouble losing weight. These issues can also stem from poor diet and exercise, poor mental health (depression, mood swings, anxiety, etc.), and other underlying thyroid issues.

So, while balancing your hormones will more than likely assist with weight loss, it’s possible that the root reason of a Cyster’s inability to lose weight could be stemming from another underlying issue. For more on the answer to this question, click play!

What is Dr. Beth Westie’s 12 Week Challenge?

Dr. Beth Westie’s 12 Week Challenge is a weight loss program for women that promotes sustainable weight loss, without dieting. The program focuses on teaching women how to eat and exercise to maintain a healthy hormonal balance in the midst of constant cyclical hormone fluctuations.

Here are just a few key tenants of the program and how they may benefit women with polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS).

DUTCH Hormone Test

As an initial part of the program, participants are given a DUTCH Hormone Test in order to gain a comprehensive analysis of their sex and adrenal hormones and their metabolites. This includes stress hormones from the adrenal glands, testosterone levels, estrogen levels, and more.

As a Cyster, it is particularly useful to know this information so that you can make the necessary life changes to get your hormones back on track.

Customized Nutrition & Supplement Recommendations

No two women are the same, as no Cyster’s are the same. Participants in Dr. Beth Westie’s program will receive a totally customized nutrition & supplement recommendation to help balance their hormones.

Women with PCOS oftentimes need supplements to support their immune system, thyroid, and more, but don’t know where to start. Dr. Beth Westie’s customized approach can be a good start point by helping you identify your deficiencies.

10 Fat Burning Tactics for Women

In addition to a customized nutrition plan, Dr. Westie’s 12 Week Challenge also includes a tutorial for 10 different fat burning tactics for women. These include carb cycling, intermittent fasting, protein pacing, and more.

Since women with PCOS often struggle to lose weight, these key exercises may come in handy and help promote a healthier lifestyle. These exercises are specially curated for women and their specific hormone cycles and can help burn belly fat at a quicker rate.

Other program inclusions:

Dr. Westie’s 12 Week Program is so comprehensive, we’ve just barely scratched the surface with our examples above.

Here are some other inclusions that may benefit women with PCOS:

  • Lessons on seed cycling, detoxing, removing hormone disruptors, fasting, gut health, cortisol, and more
  • Coaching audios and weekly email checkins
  • Exclusive access to a Facebook Group for support
  • Weekly group coaching calls 
  • Mindset work for living a healthier lifestyle

For more information about the course, click here. And for the answers to all your FAQ’s about the program, click here.

The Female Fat Solution Book

Dr. Beth Westie’s best-selling book is a must-read for women with PCOS. Like we briefly touched on earlier, womens’ hormones not only change as they age, but they cycle every. single. month. So, it’s important for women to understand their bodily cycles and use that information to curate the ideal meal plan and workout schedule.

If you’re interested in learning more about these cycles, as well as hormones and weight loss, we recommend checking out The Female Fat Solution Book. Readers can learn about hormone levels and the nervous system, estrogen imbalance and the thyroid gland, fat cells and processed foods, fatty acids and chemical messengers, and so much more.

Most of all, though, readers can learn about hormone imbalances, why they happen, and how to make the necessary life changes to promote their hormonal balance. Thus, supporting their overall health.

If you have any questions, comments, or thoughts on our episode today, drop them below!
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Full Episode transcript:

That’s when I started researching and diving into Eastern medicine and looking at, okay, I can’t be the only person struggling with this. Why is this happening? What is it about what’s going on? That I can’t figure this out or that there doesn’t seem to be a solution out there. Cause that’s what I kept asking the ER doc, I was like,

listen, I don’t want birth control. I don’t want to be doped up on Vicodin. The rest of my life. I want to know why this is happening. I didn’t have this before, but I have this now, how can I take care of it and get my body better? Not just throw a pill at it again. And he didn’t have an answer for me. my own hands.

And Welcome everyone to another episode of a sister and her Mister today, we have Dr. Beth Westy. She is the author of the bestselling book, the female fat solution. She’s the creator of the eat for your cycle method and the host of the female health solution podcast. She’s made it her mission to help women use nutrition, to work with their natural cycle to achieve lasting weight loss results.

She spent years struggling with ovarian cysts, thyroid issues, and wait until she really drove into backgrounds of Eastern medicine. So she’s made it her mission to help women regain control of their health and nutrition. Welcome, welcome. Yay. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. We love being on your podcasts and we really appreciate you coming on ours. Could we start by like seeing how you got into Eastern medicine and how you found that to be helpful for your Yes.

Yeah. So quick backstory on me is I’m from Minnesota. So if you hear me love it long. Yeah. I grew up on a board I’m in Minnesota, so that’s, that’s so good. Yeah. I grew up showing goats in four H I have not met a lot of people from Minnesota, so I’ve only heard that accent on TV or so I try really hard not to let it show,

but there’s every now and then somebody be like, you’re from the Midwest. You’re from either Minnesota or North Dakota or something. I’m like, yeah, I am sure. And I was an athlete growing up as a three sport athlete in high school. I played volleyball in college. You can’t tell, but I’m six, two. I’m like, oh wow.

Amazon Dow. And just knew that when I was in undergrad that I wanted to go to grad school. So I actually went to chiropractic school. So I’m a chiropractor by training. And when I was getting my chiropractic degree, I also got certified in acupuncture and Eastern medicine trained in Chinese medicine and then did extra training for fertility and hormone issues for women in Eastern medicine.

And this is where I just started to like, it opened up my entire world of how to treat the female body. Right. Because I mean, I grew up in the Western medicine world. Like there was a pill for every pain, right. There is a medicine cabinet that you went in and no one acknowledged like how the body actually works or functions or anything.

It was just, oh, you have a problem. Here’s a pill for it. Okay. Yeah. But not actually like going to root cause for anything. So when I really started diving into again, natural health, I don’t like calling it alternative medicine, but okay. Yeah. It makes, it sounds like it’s not like it can’t be a main solution.

It sounds like it’s like a, off the cuff or something that The exact secondary, which it’s really not. When you look at, okay, this is how the human body functions, here’s the physiology of it. Let’s try and work with that as much as possible. And that’s what really just started to open my eyes. And I actually had my first two kids while I was in grad school,

which I would not recommend any type of higher education, like while you’re, you know, being like enormously pregnant and having to go do, you know, midterms and finals. And I remember I was nursing and I had to take one of my board exams and like, it was awful because when you’re taking boards, there’s like two hour spans of time that you’re in taking an exam and then you get the 20 minute break and they have to go back in.

So I would have to run and pump while I was, oh my God, that’s terrible. That’s terrible. Did you have to go to your car to do that? Or like, what was the easier like I would go in the women’s bathroom, like one of the stalls and because they didn’t have, you know, it was, you know, they didn’t have that type of setup for women and you know,

so it was, it was very stressful to say the least stressful. And then when I graduated from chiropractic school and I started a clinic and you know, everything else, and then I graduated, started clinic all within about three months span of time. And then I found out I was pregnant the next month I was pregnant again. Wow. Again, second time.

Yeah. Right. So this is my third kid actually. And you know, for anybody who’s had a new business, you know how hard it is to get things off the ground, you know, struggled financially, trying to figure out how to get, make a go of it. Right. And my youngest was actually a preemie. So she was born about two months early and spent 23 days in the NICU.

So all of that was like very stressful, very traumatic. Like I had a placental abruption, like was bleeding out all these things. So like, I’m lucky to be alive. She’s lucky to be alive, you know, that type of a thing. So it was a really stressful time. And then from there to still be trying to push with my business and make things work that that was like the most stress I’ve ever been under in men.

Like a lot of it’s like a recipe for hormonal imbalance. That’s what it sounds like. Gosh, exactly. Giving birth, lots of stress, life and death situations, recipe for Trifecta right there. Yeah. It’s exactly. Yeah. Isn’t it, isn’t it like already a huge hormonal change after giving birth. So that coupled with all the other stress you’re going with.

Yeah. That’s crazy. Yeah. And that’s when I started getting cysts, like right after that, like it’ll do it. Yup. Not that long after she came home from the hospital, I got my first ovarian cyst and I’d never had them before. Right. I didn’t have, you know, and I didn’t really think I had hormone problem. I didn’t really know I was on the pill forever.

Like a lot of other gals. And until I started having babies and everything, and it was awful. Like I would have a cyst that would burst every month and it would go right side, left side, right side, left side. And it was awful. And at the same time I’m trying to work. I would be treating patients in my office and have to run into my back room and crouch on the floor because this,

this would burst. Oh, Wow. So you’re saying it would burst like once I would burst and then a couple of weeks there, the other side would burst. Like just non-stop. Yeah. Well it was every other month because every month populate. Yeah. You ovulate from like every other month you’re supposed to like opulate from one side and then the other side.

So like, if you ovulate on the right side in January, then February would be the left side. March would be the right. So for some gals, yeah. For some gals that have, you know, a lot of scar tissue or multiple cysts or even endometriosis, things like that. And there’s extra tissue, maybe on one side, they might not obviate like that every other month because of the,

like the actual clump of scar tissue that could be blocking the ovary from functioning. Well, so it seems like, yeah, I have my one, my, I have my period normal one month and then the next month it skips or it’s late or something and then it’s fine for a month. And then it skips her it’s late. And it’s like,

yeah, cause that one side has a lot of issues. Oh, I had no idea about the size and how they can differentiate. So How did you turn this ship around? This was a long battle. I had this for a year and a half before I found ways to deal with it. I tried to eat really healthy and clean. I was eating a pristine diet,

you know, gluten free, dairy free, no sugar. Non-inflammatory I was taking a basket of supplements, you know, lots of vitamins, lots of fish oils, you know, all this stuff. And some things were sort of helping, but I was still getting cysts. And my husband actually got to a point where he got really frustrated with me.

He put me in the car and took me to the ER, cause I couldn’t get off the floor. You know? And then the ER, doc, which I know this is very similar story to a lot of other women. He was like, oh, here’s your Vicodin? Here’s your birth control. That’s it. Yeah. And so, And then what would you do at this point?

It sounds like you got the diet under, I Don’t know about the stress, but yeah, that was well, that was the thing. It was like a thing. Yeah. I mean having this all the time and being put on the floor from it, it was still very stressful. And that’s when I started researching and diving into Eastern medicine and looking at,

okay, I can’t be the only person struggling with this. Why is this happening? What is it about what’s going on that I can’t figure this out or that there doesn’t seem to be a solution out there. Cause that’s what I kept asking the ER doc, I was like, listen, I don’t want birth control. I don’t want to be doped up on Vicodin,

the rest of my life. I want to know why this is happening. I didn’t have this before, but I have this now, how can I take care of it and get my body better? Not just throw a pill at it again. And he didn’t have an answer for me. So that’s what I was really looking for is what’s going on.

And when I started looking at Eastern medicine and realizing there are a lot of other types of medicine that really focus on how the female body shifts and changes throughout the month, like acupuncture. When you do acupuncture for fertility, you actually are wanting to help the body go through different phases. Like the female body, the hormones changed throughout the month so much.

It’s the kind of like you have four different bodies throughout the month and with acupuncture and everything and Chinese medicine, you actually try and help the body through those different phases, not treat it the same all the time. And that was one of the biggest eye-opening revelations that I had where I was like, holy crap. I keep treating my body the same every single week.

No wonder why my hormones are still off and I’m not able to get ahead of this. So I went through, you know, a specific hormone detox to help flush out the excess estrogens from my system because I was very estrogen dominant, which a lot of people with PCOS are and then started, you know, alternating, you know, eating for estrogen,

eating for progesterone, incorporating that. And it helped a ton regulate my cycle, decrease a lot of symptoms I had and it didn’t happen overnight, you know, or right away that, you know, but within like the next month I still had assist it wasn’t as bad. And then by the second month I could tell that there was a cyst there,

but it didn’t burst. But by the third month I didn’t even feel assist. Amazing. That’s amazing. And I, going back to what you were saying where like in a woman’s body, you’re going through a different phase each, each week of the cycle. So I think we’ve talked about in the past where like when you’re taking supplements, when you’re trying to improve your health,

it’s almost like more complicated for a woman to improve her health compared to a man because a man doesn’t have the four different cycles within that month. So when they just take something it’s a bit more straightforward, but with women it’s a bit more complicated and take a bit longer period of time, correct? Yeah. Yes. That’s exactly what it is. And you know,

when you look at what the female body needs, especially the week or two leading up to when the cycle starts, I mean, women need more healthy fats, they need more proteins, they need more minerals and vitamins. And that’s why a lot of women get cravings and stuff because the body is technically depleted from what it would naturally need. And these are things that we just don’t know or we feel bad.

Oh, I’ve got cravings right now. Oh, shoot. That means you need more. Let’s go. What are some actionable steps that women can take during the four phases of their cycle? I feel like women listening right now. Like what are the, what do I do? So right before my period, what do I do? Or like it’s right after my period.

Why do I do? Yeah. So what I like to teach to start with, because this can be a bigger process, is eating for your cycle in terms of your basal body temperature. So for anybody who’s ever tracked their cycle or track their basal body temperature, you know that right from the time your period starts up until you ovulate your body temperature is lower.

So you want to help that lower body temperature by eating cooling foods, cooling tone foods. I have lists out there that I’ve made and posted for people to look at, you know, for free, you know, you can even Google that. What are some cooling foods, right? That’d be chicken, Turkey, fish, raw fruits and vegetables are very cooling vices like mint,

dill time, Rosemary, very cooling for the body. And it’s going to work with that lower body temperature. And then when you ovulate right temperature spikes, and then stays higher or should stay higher for the progesterone phase, right, for that second phase of the cycle. And then when you want to match with that warming, that warming cycle, that warming phase of eating warming foods.

So like beef and bacon, any type of, you know, bison, red meat, very, very warming, right? Cooking your fruits and vegetables as much as possible, eating peppers, putting spice on things. Ginger cinnamon tumeric like very, very warming, right? And the digestive system actually slows down when you’re in that phase as well, just naturally the digestive system moves slower.

Progesterone literally means pro gestation. It’s preparing your body for a viable pregnancy, whether it happens or not. So it does things like slow down your digestive system, which then leads to, you know, I feel more bloated or I feel more gassy or Ooh, you know, what’s going on. And it’s just your, body’s trying to leech every bit of nutrient from the food that you’re eating because it’s preparing for something.

Right? So things like ginger, which is very soothing for the digestive system and helps move things along a little bit, kind of picks up the pace there and can help your system function better. So your gut feels better too. Okay. Yeah. Not to mention cooked vegetables are easier to digest. So if your Mo your digestion is slowing down, or you have gas or things like that,

it’s good to cook. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And you’re bringing that heat into, and the thing I like about this too, is that this is not an exclusive thing. Like you can only eat warming foods during this phase. You know, you can’t eat and you can’t have, you know, mint leaves in your water or anything like that.

No. Right. It’s more of like, take a snapshot of the day. Are you doing more warming things than cooling? Awesome. Then you’re going to be working with that phase more. So it’s a really easy way to start stepping into the way your body shifts throughout the month, by leaning into that cooling and warming, honestly matching your basal body temperature.

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What about the women who haven’t had a period in a long time? It let’s say it’s been like four months since they had a period and they don’t know what cycle Varian or what the heck is. Yeah. So this is the same advice that I give Dalles. If they’re going to start seed cycling or things like that, it is just start, you know,

you can count back if you want, or you can start tracking your basal body temperature to see where you might be at. But if your body is super irregular, then just start, start with, start with the day, start with day one and do cooling for two weeks and warming for two weeks will help your body sync up and have a pattern to go off of.

It’s the same thing for anybody who, if they’re coming off of a birth control or something like that, this helps your body have a pattern. Your hormones are impressionable, right? They’re not static. I mean, any gal that’s been on a sports team at all, or been around other gals, right? Like living, like I lived with three other gals in college,

you know, it doesn’t take very long for everybody to sync up. Right. I never understood that. Like, I’ve heard this phenomenon for many years and I still don’t understand how that can happen, but I guess it just happens. It’s just, you guys are like wifi routers, all like, Oh my God, what if I wrote her? That’s not wrong.

Yeah. I believe it. And I it’s just like, it’s very interesting. It’s amazing. It’s amazing. It’s like an amazing phenomenon that happens in nature is all I’m trying to say. Yeah, no, it’s absolutely true. There’s a lot of theories on, you know, historically why this would be happened for women to sync up like this, you know,

when you live in a group or, you know, that type of a thing. Sure. But that’s, it’s a reality of what happens to women’s bodies. Women’s bodies do sync up. So our hormones are impressionable. You have the ability to be in the driver’s seat, directing your pattern, your hormones. So to give it this pattern to go off of,

to, to eat for your cycle is super helpful. Because that way, if, if there are stressors or endocrine, disruptors, or other things around you, that could be disrupting your natural cycle, you have this pattern to go off of. And it’s, it’s very similar. Like with seeds cycling, you eat certain seeds during different parts of the cycle to help your system,

you know, link up and have a pattern to go off of. This is like an advanced level of that. And then getting more specific with PCLs. So when you see a patient with PCs, what are some of the, like a couple of first things you do with either with the diagnosis or with just getting to understand what’s happening within their body?

Ah, so, oh, and I do hormone testing. I do Dutch testing, which is a urine test for comprehensive four months to see the exact pathways, to see where things are being processed, stopping, processed, what to target. So it is, it is pretty intricate what we go through to really look at what to target for the body.

Cause each body is different. But one of the most frustrating things that a lot of times I have to go through right off the bat is, is the basic education, which I know you guys have to do too all the time. Like there was somebody I talked to, it was two days ago, I chat with this great gal and we went over her report,

her Dutch report, and we were talking about these levels and I was like, have you ever been diagnosed with PCOS? Has anybody ever talked to you about that? And she was like, well, I think of one Dr. May have said something about it, but I don’t know that I was officially diagnosed with it. And I was like, okay, well,

have you had cysts? Or, oh yeah. Oh yeah. I get that. I was like, It should be like the first thing, the one they have says, make sure double check everything else. Oh, I’m going to start sweating. But this is like, it’s terrible for women to just not be given any guidance or really being told the truth about what’s happening your body or for somebody to be like,

yeah, it seems like there’s a problem. Oh, you’re having a SIS, you know, frequently. Well, that can happen later. I don’t know. What can I have a doctor sees as a seasons that as normal, It’s just, they’re like, oh yeah. A lot of gals have that. Yeah. They do say that. They say like,

oh, you know, a lot of people have cysts, but should they have cysts that rupture and leave you on the floor every month, once a month? Do we deserve that? Just because it’s common doesn’t mean it’s normal. Yeah. Just like cramps. Yeah. Because a lot of women have cramps and awful periods doesn’t mean that that’s normal and you should just be like,

oh, it’s my period again. I’m paralyzed. Yeah. Yes it is. There was one of my really good friends actually, when we first met and we started talking about hormonal stuff, she shared with me that every month when she would get her period, she would be in bed for two to three days. It would be that bad. Like she’d have to put down towels.

And like, it was like literally two to three days. Every month in bed couldn’t even get out of bed. Couldn’t even function. She would meal prep for those days because she, I, it blew my mind that it was that bad for her. And I was like, dude, do you realize let’s like two weeks, every year that you don’t have that you’re spending in bed because you can’t move.

That’s not okay. Handicapping your body weight. That’s more than two weeks. There’s 12 months. Is it three days a month? Three times 12. That’s 36 days. That’s that’s almost a month of your whole year that you’re paralyzed in pain. Yeah. I just think the mental math two weeks. Okay. More than two weeks. Yeah. Whatever it was.

Yeah. Two to three days a month though. And this is for some people they’re like, oh yeah, that happens to me sometimes. Yeah. That’s not. Okay. And she had gone through so many things and again was told that the only solution with birth control for her and I’m like, but that’s not helping your body function better. Yeah.

That’s not helping anything. Yeah. The question is like, why is that happening? Yeah. If you don’t figure out the why then no matter what, even if you’re on birth control, the is going to snowball into something worse later. And like maybe it was high estrogen and that’s why you had such terrible cramps. And then later you have like extremely high estrogen.

That’s a risk factor for so many things. Yeah. That’s exactly right. And it gets to be so frustrating that women try to get answers. They try to get help. And they’re led down this wild goose chase of just going in circles. And I was there too. I was frustrated too. And one of the things that I got a little obsessed about was really researching why women’s health is the way it is today And what you Learn.

So there is, you know, doing all this research. I learned that health in this country, you know, in the Western world is based off of the male body research has done on men. It’s conducted by men. So it’s put together for men. Yeah. They use males for the standard for pretty much everything. I mean, it wasn’t even until 1993 that a law was passed,

that women could even be a part pharmaceutical studies, 19 93, 93. That’s when the law was passed, that women could be a part. So before that women were not allowed to be a part of pharmaceutical studies testing, any medications, meaning, think about when birth controls were created In the sixties, Fifties, right? They were tested on men. They were tested on men.

They still do it today. They take a study and they still, women only make up anywhere from on average, five to 10% of the study, which is statistically not important because any outlying data, they just Chuck, because it doesn’t go along. Right. If anybody knows anything about research and statistics and things like that, they throw out outliers. And that’s usually the percentage that women are part of.

So they would test these medications and they still do on men that are 140 pounds and call that equivalent to a female body. Ah, my mind is blown and are they giving them like birth control and stuff too? Or What is that doing To them? But like, how could that even do anything? Like they’re not giving Birth anyways. Yeah. Like,

should they be testing if they’re getting their period or things like that? Like how, how can you that’s I don’t know what to say. Yeah. I’d like to meet the fool who came up with this. I’d like to look straight into his eyes, you meet them every time you go into your medical clinic, I’ll tell you that. That’s what they’re,

that’s the data that they go off of. So there’s a great book called doing harm. And it’s written about like the lazy science of why women’s healthcare is not advanced. You know, they, they go off of men. Like they did an aging study, a 70 year aging study. They studied aging in the human body for 70 years. That’s how many women were a part of that study?

How many? Five, zero, You know, stuff like, oh, well women don’t age or because aging and women and dealing with the hormones and going through menopause. It’s so complicated. Let’s just not even look at that. Or how about let’s look at it even more. Yeah. It’s 50% of the population more now I think. So it’s just as,

it’s more important than men at this point. It’s the biggest part of the population. I just wrote down the book. So it’s called doing harm. Right? We’ll go your mind. Like when I first read it, I would like yell at Yeah. And then there’s, there’s other things in terms of women’s health specifically where they talk about the, like,

if anybody knows anything about, is it Mary? And Jason’s the history of OB GYN? Like the, they call him the godfather of gynecology and everything. Like the horrific things he did. Oh, really? Email slaves. Well, I’ve heard that. Yeah. You know what? I’m talking about the torture and like, oh my God. And then think about when you go into to see your OB GYN,

not exactly a relaxing and pleasant visit, is it laid down on the, you know, harsh paper, bright, weird lights and just Dig something In and yeah. And these stirrups right there, like, I am relaxed right now. If a woman actually designed those exam rooms, it would be totally different. I’m just saying A lot more pleasant. Yeah.

There’d be a lot More warm. It would be warm. It would be Warm. It would be 75 degrees. At least Maybe some, maybe some suede on the chair or something. Maybe a nice robe to put on instead of a piece of paper that rips. Sometimes they don’t even fit depending on your size. And they’re, they’re like one size fits all,

but you know, if you’re larger, it’s not going to cover. You know, it’s not, I am comfortable. I am six, two. I will tell you those stupid things. I can’t believe it. Last time I went, it was like a new one and I couldn’t believe it. I looked ridiculous and I sent Sedaka picture thing. I remember.

Yeah. I think I remember that. Yeah. These are the things though. Like if you actually look at how we are cared for how women are cared for, how the female body is cared for in health, and you start to think about like, this seems ridiculous. It is. But it’s based off of stuff that is really old. What the female body is not studied.

It’s still not a majority part of anything. And even like the pharmaceutical industry, the aging, you know, medical health, all that stuff, even things like fitness, like when they have all those, like, Aw, this pre-workout is going to help you burn more fat, blah, blah, blah. You know, things that like make claims like that,

you know, you know who they study, they studied or division one athletes between the ages of 18 and 22. Wow. So even like, even a guy like me, can’t relate. Cause I’m like 30. I consider myself an athlete, but I’m not at that level of stage yet. I mean, think about like the, like the testosterone levels in males that age like division one male college athletes between the ages of 18 and 22.

So their testosterone levels are sky high. So of course they can do a study of this, oh, creatine, you know, bid out of Nene pre-workout blah, blah, blah. And then see, oh look, their body’s got to fat burning. And they take the same thing and market it towards age women. And they’re saying that the body’s going to burn fat the same.

And that’s absolutely not true. Yeah, no. What cracks me up is when people DM us or comment and say, we, you know, show us more research and like we, you know, and there’s not no research. There is no research on women’s health for us to show you. There’s no proper research. That’s thorough enough that I want to pick up and read and explain because especially with PCLs,

it’s not being researched. No, it’s not, it’s not, it’s ridiculous. It’s only more recently that they talk about having the four different types of PCLs and everything else. And they still don’t have a standard of testing and there’s still no standard of care, More diagnosis. And this going back to studies, like all this, like even the diet studies like studies done on intermittent fasting,

keto is all dominantly like done on men. So, and then when people hear about, oh, I should go keto for PCOS, or I should go, I should intermittent fast. Like it might work, but we don’t really know because the studies are saying it works for men. And I think previous conversations, like something like intermittent fasting can actually be counterproductive because of the cycles that a woman has to go through during her menstrual cycle and how fast it can actually hurt that if you’re doing it for too long periods of time.

Yeah, Exactly. To really dig, to find some competent research and understand what works and what doesn’t work. I mean, there’s some on dairy and PCOS, there’s some on gluten and endometriosis. There’s some, and we have to use critical thinking skills to apply. Yeah. And the, and the hard thing is, is that the textbooks and everything else,

the research for that stuff, when you look at the timeline for doing research and how it gets to become mainstream, you’re looking at a 50 year span of time, 30 to 50 years is about what it would be. So if people started doing research today on the female body and PCLs and gluten 50 years from now, it would be really extreme. Well,

that’s exciting. We didn’t choose a proof. We sit here saying it for 50 years. Is it hard to like, create your own study? Like, could we like do something where we get, you know, when we piece PCs and we put like, we showcase them with gluten dairy free and see how they do it. But I think, I feel like it would be,

it’s very technical and very difficult. I feel like to do a scientific study. The hardest thing about scientific studies from what I’ve seen is that they just cost a lot of money upfront. And without having complete con it’s all about control in the space, you know what I mean? Cause if you’re just, otherwise it’s more of like clinical data that you can collect all day clinical data,

oh, this person says that they are gluten-free and that this and this and this and that it helped their symptoms. Great. So you can collect all those. We have plenty of that. Yes. Right? Yeah. And maybe some person is not really a hundred percent gluten-free or, you know it, you know, but I mean, so essentially there’s different types of research that you can do.

And having that clinical data is easy to get, you know, you’re just collected over time and that it’s valid. It’s very, very valid. So yeah. Yeah. Otherwise you have to isolate people for 30 days, control their intake and Put them in a hotel for 30 days and feed Only gluten and dairy free and then yeah. Measure their blood levels and all that stuff,

which again, the cost for that is what is a deterrent usually. But there is a gal Dr. Stacy Sims. I don’t know if you’ve heard of her. She has a book called roar, R O a R and she’s a PhD. And she has done research on the female body and endurance athletes being an endurance athlete and the cycle. So yeah.

Wow. One of the only researchers out there that’s doing stuff like that. Okay. And is she like connecting the dots between like endurance athletes and PCOS or no, And specifically PCLs necessarily, but more of like, oh, you know, during this phase of the cycle, your energy might be a little bit lower. Like athletes, performers are lower.

Yeah. So, and she just started to work with some of the Olympic athletes in Nike. I’ve heard of this perform way better because they’re performing based on their cycle. I mean, they’re practicing based on their cycle. I remember the Article or reading an article like that during the Olympics. So Yeah. This is like cutting edge stuff with cutting Edge.

Oh really? It’s Yeah. It’s like, we really think about it. It’s, it’s the most simplest thing. Cause it’s what our body just has a program to do after thousands of thousands of years of like, you know, evolution and just, you know, it’s just nature. Hello. Yes. Seriously. Yeah. And so this is like the more people talking about this,

the more people highlighting this, I think the better, because it gets that awareness out there and to realize like for women to have hormonal issues, to have PCAs, to have these problems, you know, I’m using air quotes problems with their, with their body. It’s not something that is just like a quick fix go away necessarily, but really to lean into and learn how your body works and work with it.

And there’s a whole other world out there then for you instead of feeling stuck or feeling shamed or feeling like, oh, I’m restricted in what my life can actually be because of my health, which Yeah. Or feeling like you can’t do anything about it. And you have to rely on outside sources as a crutch for your hormones, whether it’s birth control or whether it’s surgeries or whether it’s medication and they sell so much to you before telling you that you have control over your body.

The first thing they do is convince you that you don’t so that you can relinquish that control and not be self-aware and realize that, you know, maybe they’re there, you have to do some investigation and see what’s going on with your hormones. Maybe there’s a way yeah. Yes. Sweaty Our heaters on Fire it up over here, talking about, But I think that’s a,

that’s a great place to end the podcast right there. That was a great interview. Just meshing those two books, doing harm, roar by Dr. Stacy Sims. I think listeners, if you want to learn more about studies being done and about women’s health, those are great, great suggestions. And Dr. Beth, if people want to work with you,

if people want to learn more from me, where can they find you? Yeah. So I am on the interwebs, Dr. Beth Westie. That’s Dr. Beth Westie and you know, Facebook, Instagram, my website, you know, and then my podcast and my, my, I have a YouTube channel also Dr. Beth Westie, where I do a lot of videos talking about how to eat for your cycle and your hormones,

that type of a thing. Yeah. Oh, we’ll put that information in the link. So listeners, you can go ahead to the description and click through. Yes. Amazing. Thanks So much for joining us. This is our, one of our favorite interviews. Sisters take care, everyone. Bye. If you enjoyed listening to this podcast, you have to come check out the sisterhood.

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