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Welcome everyone to another episode of a Cyster and her Mister today, we have with us, a fellow sister, Heather Marie, she has followed our PCOS weight loss method and lost 30 pounds with PCOS. She went gluten and dairy free and after years of calorie restrictive diets and doing intense workouts, she’s finally thriving with PCOS. With a couple months of consistency, she was able to lose 20 pounds and after getting her thyroid under control,

when a per PCs root causes, she was able to lose 10 more pounds. Today. We’re going to talk about Heather’s journey and how she changed her diet and lifestyle to heal the root causes of her. Welcome, Heather. I’m so glad to be here. Thank you so much for having me.

We, we loved having you on our Instagram life for listeners who are listening. We had Heather join us on Instagram live and she gave a little bit of her experience with PCs. But today we’re going to go a little bit more in depth. So welcome, Heather. We’re very happy to have you. Thank you so much. So I guess we should just get started with the start of your journey,

how you were diagnosed. I think Eric, a little bit of a similar start with your ovarian cyst, Rob drinks, similar to what happened to Tallinn. Oh, I didn’t know That. Yeah. I had a ruptured ovarian cyst too. I was around the 18, I think. Okay. So when I was 15, I had a ruptured ovarian cyst.

It was very painful. And I went to the hospital, they looked in, they’re like, well, this is what it looks like. And I went to my OB, it will be GYN. And they said that I should go on birth control to help regulate everything. And that the specific type of birth control I was on would help ovarian cysts not occur.

Unfortunately, I feel like that masked a lot of my symptoms so that I can be properly diagnosed with PCLs and I, that didn’t stop me from having the symptoms of waking and I was having all it did was eventually I stopped having a period and I stopped having a regular menstrual cycle. And that alone had its own challenges because, you know, you have a birth control is controlling your menstruation and yeah.

And you know, I don’t really remember the side effects that I had because it was such a long time ago, but I do remember not being happy with it. And I felt like maybe the birth control was making me gain weight. But now that I’m looking back with the knowledge that I have, thanks to you guys. I really think that it was my PCLs.

Yeah. Birth control can mask some symptoms, but not every single symptom. You know, sometimes we’ll still struggle with a couple of the Pecos symptoms, even if we’d decided to take birth control. But do you feel like you were armed with the knowledge about birth control when you were handed it or was it just like here take this? So I believe I was told that it would help me with acne and I don’t remember struggling that much with acne back then maybe some slight forehead acne.

Cause I had bangs. I do remember that my periods were very painful and very heavy, but it was like that from when I first started menstruating at like 11. So I just thought that was normal. And when I stopped having a cycle, I was happy because I didn’t have to deal with the pain anymore. And what was the turning point when you decided to get off the pill?

Actually, when I got off the pill was when I had already decided that we wanted to have a child. So it was after ups and downs after the calorie restriction, after all of a few things that we talked about in the live, after my wedding a few years after that, we decided to expand our family and yeah, so I stopped taking for control around that time.

Okay. So it sounds like you took it for like a couple of years or a pretty long time. Oh, I took it for probably 10 years. Oh wow. And it was like, probably like, Hey, let’s, let’s try to conceive. And I just went off and then we tried and then it was like now knowing that I had PCLs,

it was a miracle baby because I was pregnant. And then my pregnancy was wonderful. I didn’t have any issues aside from some healing complications afterwards. And then I breastfed and I wasn’t on the pill because I was breastfeeding and I didn’t want to add anything else to my body. I just felt very, I felt very pushed to do things the natural way.

So I started to have, I think, you know, after you give birth, I don’t sorry, but after you get married, you tend to bleed for a long time. And so it was like a few months of that. It’s not a regular menstruation. It’s just something that happens after you give birth. So it was several months of that.

And then that stopped. And then I didn’t have a regular period until probably over a year after I gave birth because I was still breastfeeding. But then when I did get it back, it was very painful. There was months where it would be like, it would be way over 30 days and I’m waiting for it to come. And then it would last two weeks.

It was just irregular. It was painful. It’s awful. That sounds awful. Did you feel like when you, oh, and by the way you can say anything like I am, I’m not part of the system so you can make, you can Act like no shame, But anyway, I was gonna say, did you feel like when you got off of birth control that the symptoms or like all the symptoms were worse than when you,

before you got on it? Cause that a lot of people would, a lot of people experienced that kind of, that nature when they got off her birth Control, it feels like it just comes back full force, if not worse. Well, when I got off birth control, I was pregnant. So that’s kind of hard to say because I had pregnancy hormones,

I had a great pregnancy. I didn’t have weird. I didn’t have your cravings and have any complications. It was a great pregnancy. So really feeling the effect of what that was like, I would have to say would be after almost a year after my son was born, I just remember eventually telling my husband, like this hurts, it’s inconsistent, it’s painful.

I thought I remember it regular. And he was like, well, you’ve been on birth control since you were like, how would it? And I was like, so I only had like a few years of regular ministration cycle. And when you’re early teens, it’s going to be weird anyways. So I didn’t really know what a regular administration cycle was like.

And I was like, I guess this is just normal. For me, it’s normal to be in extreme amounts of pain. And oh my gosh, I didn’t feel as bad as when I had an ovarian cyst burst, although it was very painful. So I didn’t think anything was wrong with me. And I didn’t bother looking into it. I was just fine with being physically miserable because spiritually,

emotionally I was great. I didn’t have, because before with my thyroid condition, I did have struggles with anxiety and depression depending on my thyroid levels. And it wasn’t until a few months ago that I realized it was because of my thyroid levels, looking back at patterns and fixing that recently. But yeah, I figured like it’s just probably normal. So You were on birth control and you were trying to lose weight,

but you had no idea that you had this thyroid issue. You had no idea some of the root issues of your PCOS because the birth control was masking it. So what were some of the things that you were doing to lose weight with PCOM while on the pill? Because I’m sure it’s so many women listening can relate to all your symptoms and struggle. So when I was in high school,

I was in cheerleading and we did those slow workouts, you know, where we would sit outside and we would do, you know, 30, 60 nineties and pushups. And you know, all the things that cheerleaders do, very similar to what we do with our slow way to workouts with the sisterhood. And if anybody who’s a cheerleader or gymnast, you know,

that’s just typical. So I would actually be okay during the school year because I would wake up on a regular schedule. I would eat lunch at a regular time and I would do healthy workouts for me, for my PCs body. Even though I didn’t know I had a PCs body. So in the summer I would be like, okay, great. Now I can,

because I was never really happy with my weight, even though it was very healthy way. And I think when I was a freshman, I was like 1 35 and I’m five, six and a half. So looking back, I’m like, I’m very healthy, but I wanted to be healthier. So I would do a lot of cardio, do a lot of Zumba dancing,

belly dancing. And I was like, now I have time to focus on diet. I have time to count calories. I have time to do this stuff. So then I ended up gaining 10 pounds every year, not realizing that inconsistencies with my sleeping, with my, you know, cause I thought if I stayed up too late at night, doing crutches and sacrifice sleep,

that that would actually help me. But it didn’t. So actually better than when I thought I had more control over what I was doing in the summer. And Did you say you were doing like crunches late at night? Is that what you said? Yeah. See that’s probably cause when you said earlier you were waking up early having lunch at the right time.

Like that’s like a, you were probably putting your body in like a really good schedule, you know, like helping with helping with the cortisol levels in the morning, helping them get lower over the day and that that’s a great schedule for your body, but then it sounds like later on you, you tried to incorporate workouts late in the evening that probably raise your cortisol in the evening.

Probably you woke up feeling fatigued, right. Or two, Even as an adult and this was in high school. But, and the reason why I talk about high school is because when I was 19 is when I lost a lot of weight. But even after that, as an adult, after having my child, I got a Fitbit and I thought that that would help.

And I feel like it did in a way because it made me more cognizant of what I was eating. But looking back, it was not nearly as healthy as what I do now. Thanks to you guys. But the Fitbit I would, you know, and there’s challenges on there and you can do step challenges. And so I would be like, okay,

maybe I’m just not pushing myself hard enough. So I was very busy during the day I was a teacher and this is after I had my son I’m in my mid twenties and I was a teacher. I was breastfeeding. I was, you know, it was very, very, very busy all day and all night. So the only time I had time to work out and I was actually TV production teacher at this time.

So my classroom was very narrow, very small filled with computers, very hot. I had no time, I couldn’t move around my classroom. Like it was before, it was very difficult to exercise and try to lose some of the baby weight. I actually only stayed teaching for like a month or two after I had my child. And then I decided to work from home afterwards.

But even then, like, I couldn’t get anything in. So what I would do is after my busy day, I would just run around my living room in circles, you know, and I would get a sweat and my heart rate would go up, but I would be, it would be like, I have to do this before midnight. And sometimes I would get a thousand steps in before midnight and then I just couldn’t do it.

I was so tired. And I was like, maybe I’ll just do 5,000. And then some days I couldn’t even do 5,000 steps. Yeah. I had no energy. It was awful. Yeah. It sounds like your circadian rhythm was completely off because of your schedule. When you’re working, It’s such a hard schedule to have you have you have a baby you’re going to work.

You’re trying, meanwhile, you’re trying to look out to yourself with diet and lifestyle. It’s like so many things happening, a level of stress must’ve been really pretty high. And even before that, when you were talking about the summertime, like just waking up late, you know, maybe having a later lunch or not having lunch or working out at night,

these types of things you can’t even imagine would affect your weight loss process so much more as well as other symptoms and other Symptoms too. So much more than anyone without PCLs. Yes. And I see that now. I still struggle with that because I’m a night owl. I, I forgot there was this term that I learned on Tik TOK or Instagram where you don’t have any alone time during the day.

So forced yourself to have alone time at night and almost a passive aggressive way. Like, no, I know that even though that I know it’s going to hurt my body, you know, it’s going to make me gain weight. It’s gonna make me irritable. I need to have that alone time. Even if it means I have to stay up until 11 o’clock at night.

And I know my son’s gonna wake up at six or seven, even if it means I’m gonna only get five hours of sleep, I need to have that alone time. Even though I know that it’s gonna make it worse for me. So that’s something that I still struggle with because on the days where my husband has off, I can sleep in. And that’s the days where I get up and go on the scale and I’ve lost two pounds suddenly because I’ve got eight hours of sleep.

Yeah, It’s crazy. How just one little adjustment, even though maybe you haven’t made changes to something else that one adjustment would sleep has like the biggest, Right. I lost 30 pounds last. I was 30 pounds down last week and same thing, thank you. I was sleeping five, six hours. And then today I got to sleep in and I’m down to,

so I feel like I’m still losing it, but my body, because of the fatigue and because of what I’m choosing to do, it holds onto that weight. And so it’s something that I know that I have to do. So at least I have the knowledge, but it’s something that I have to work on with my will because I have to, I have to put my physical health first over my mental health when,

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I don’t want to say mistake. Cause it’s, cause it’s like a human nature. We want to have that alone time. I do the same thing in the evening world. I’ll stay up maybe a little bit too late after time goes to sleep. Cause I just want to watch that extra little TV show and just like, Cause I didn’t get shin the silence,

But it’s not even that because all day we’re working and then we work out, like you don’t have that moment to just like watch TV and like just like zone out. And I feel like telling you do something similar where you’ll like, go on your phone on because we all day again, you’re like working and stuff. So at night you want to just like hop on your personal Instagram and just looked around,

but it’s Late friends, but like I shouldn’t be on my phone. So we had this similar like struggle, like, you know, with our, with our life too. Like some days it’s, it’s hard to kind of be strict with yourself and tell yourself, okay, stop watching TV pass this time or stop looking at your phone. Like we all struggle with it.

So just find a balance or even find the time to do it during the day. Even if it seems impossible, just making any sort of adjustment can really help you. It must be an introvert thing because I I’m an introvert, even though I, when I’m around people that I’m very comfortable with I’m I feel like I’m myself and I can talk a lot and I have a lot of energy,

but anyways, so an introvert is somebody who like really needs to have that alone time by themselves. You know, if you’re somebody who, I mean, just people in general feed off of each other’s energy and you’re in somebody else’s energetic space all day. You’re sharing space with somebody else. You’re just not in your own. And you just need to be on your own to charge your own batteries.

And it’s like, just connect with yourself and be in your own space and say, this is me. This is who I am recharging my own battery. Instead of sharing my energy, my battery of energy with other people, whether it’s the work from home or taking care of my child because of course he’s four years old. The whole world revolves around him.

That’s just natural. Yeah. That’s every four year old, you know? So everything that you give, give, give all day, you need to have that time to recharge. Otherwise you can’t give the next day. Yeah. That’s such an interesting thing to bring up. I never even thought of it that way. How we do it almost passive aggressively.

Like I want this moment for myself and it’s almost like a sign that we should be prioritizing our introvertedness or our, whatever. We feel like doing more throughout the day, instead of waiting until nighttime and not just like suppress, suppress, suppress, and then, okay. Finally, it’s nine o’clock. I have like three hours to myself instead of sleeping at 10 or 11.

You’re like forcing yourself to stay up because you want it to be alone. I know it’s better when I go to sleep earlier. I know if my body shows me, it is my body, isn’t bloated in the morning. I have a lot more energy, but at the same time, I feel like I cheated myself out of being able to do something for me.

It’s self versus self. Yeah. That’s the tough part because you know, you’re like, you’re not really missing out on anything if you don’t watch something or whatever, but it’s so true that you feel like if you do go to sleep, you’re kind of like, quote unquote, losing out on life. You’re not able to get the full experience from your day,

but, And giving them, giving to everyone all day, you just wanted a couple hours to yourself and you’re like, cutting it short. And then you hear you’re annoyed, you know? Yeah. So when I was 19 is when I started well, actually 18, but going on 19 is when I was in college and I started my own schedule.

So I only had school like two days a week. I had a lot of online classes. And again, it was that summer thing again. But this time I was like, no, I’m going to commit. It’s going to be every day. And I decided to commit to 1200 calorie restriction and I lost over 40 pounds. I think I weighed like 180 8 when I graduated high school.

Cause remember I told you, I gained like at least 10 pounds every year. And I went from 180 8 in may to, I want to say sometime in fall 1 39. And I was very thin. I was happy. And I was like, okay, I’m just going to try to tone and maybe join a gym. I joined a gym after I lost the weight before then it was our restriction.

Cause I noticed that I would do cymbal workouts because I think I had a wee fit or something like that. And maybe the Zoopla DVD there, wasn’t a lot of things on YouTube back then in like 2011, 2012, there wasn’t a lot of things online. So I was just doing the same things over and over again. And I would notice that I wouldn’t lose any weight.

So I was like, I’m just going to, maybe I’m just not focusing hard enough on the diet when I take the time to do a 30 minute workout. So I really didn’t exercise at all during those six months. And I just did calorie restriction and then I thought, okay, now’s the time to work out so that I can add more calories in and just be a normal person like everybody else who walks the street and just,

you know, is in a healthy BMI range. And that didn’t work. That I, what happened slowly, crept up again. It was Temporary. It was very temporary because I would, I would S you know, and then I that’s around the time when I met my husband. So, and he wanted to treat me so every time he was actually a cook at the time,

he was a cook for 10 years, which is fantastic because now my Mister makes all my gluten-free and dairy-free Love It. He’s awesome. But at the time he was cooking all day and he didn’t want to cook when he came home. So we would just go out to eat. And then we moved in together. It was just more going out to eat,

even though we plan like, okay, we’re going to eat at home. And this kind of thing, I was not like, I’m still not a cook. I’m not very good at cooking. I’m just, my brain just works in amazing ways, but cooking. It’s like a brick wall. You can tell me, and I’ll just stare blankly at you and I,

my brain doesn’t process it. So what I would do is make sandwiches. I would make things that were like really easy that didn’t involve, like, and also I was I’m, I’m a vegetarian, well, actually I would just eat chicken at the time and sometimes fish, but not really. Now it’s more chicken and fish, a lot more salmon because of the gluten-free and dairy-free diet.

I craving more healthier foods and I’m trying more things within my range of not eating red meat. I’ve just been since I was like 13. And so, you know, I had a very limited diet anyways, and I have some food allergies, so I would just get frozen meals. And those things, you know, they have all that sodium in them,

but it was easy to calorie count. And even after my son was born, I would grab those frozen meals when I was trying to diet, because with my fitness pal is that’s an app. You can scan the box and everything. And I was able to look at my macros that way and my calories, and I would lose like 10 pounds here and there,

but then it would just stop. And it was so frustrating and exhausting and Exhausting to count and count and meticulously count your husband’s trying to make you this delicious food. And you’re like, should I eat it? Should I not eat it? You know, you want to count it all. We actually scan And all the food that he would make. So for dinner,

for dinner, I would sit there and I would scan everything and we would do it together and he would put it in his and we would just copy and paste and share each other that way, which is really great. But I remember thinking there was something, something that was missing, like it was going to be simple, whatever it was. I just remember thinking it shouldn’t be this hard.

I look around and I see other people who say they struggle with weight, and I’m sure I’m not going to discount anybody else’s perception, but there’s people who I thought were very, very thin. Like they’ve never, ever been overweight on. According to the, I know that BMI is bad and I keep, but in my, in my brain where I’m telling myself these things and I’m like,

those people have never, ever been anywhere near the overweight side of that. So I was like, what are they doing that I’m not doing? They’re eating the same things as me. Yeah. They’re eating, you know, salads. And I’m doing all these things and why is it not working? Question is why isn’t my metabolism functioning properly. That is the root of the issue,

not the calories, you know, counting the calories. It’s like, are you going to count calories till you’re 80 years old? You know, to keep your weight down, or are you going to prioritize, figuring out what is triggering your metabolism to be so slow? Is it sleep? Is it what time you’re waking up? Is it how many hours of sleep you’re getting?

How stressed you are, what types of workouts you’re doing? Gluten dairy insulin and at the end of the day water. Yeah. Yeah. And at the end of the day, all of those things affect the insulin hormone. Like CX just said, because if that insulin hormone is high all the time, you’re never going to be in fat burning mode.

You’re not going to be able to metabolize what you’re eating. You’re running up a hill. It’s like, it’s like, even though you’re trying your best, you’re running up a hill. Like everything else could be working against you in terms of insulin, making it harder to lose weight. Yeah. I was going to say I was actually diagnosed with my hypothyroidism disorder.

So when I was 18, 19, I was like 1 39 and then slowly gained back. And about that time, it gained back. My grandmother was in hospice and it was a very, very sad time for us. And she passed away. And I was in between going to doctors for a few different things. My regular doctor said I was diagnosed with anxiety and mild depression,

which is true. My symptoms did fit all that. But I also went to a thyroid doctor after many, many years of my mom saying, Hey, she needs to go to an endocrinologist. I know that that TSH levels on her blood work, aren’t showing enough. I can see that she has goiter. She has a lot of the symptoms with the weight gain.

My mom finally pushed enough to where my doctor referred me to an endocrinologist and they did a full panel of blood work. My TSH was showing normal levels. My teeth, I think my T3 was showing normal levels. One of the, either T3 or T4, one of those was normal. And the other one was way off. Regular doctors do not do a full thyroid panel.

They just do TSH. They don’t do T3 and T4. And my doctor was like, you clearly have had hypothyroidism and I’m can look at that by looking at this paperwork. And it was frustrating for me all these years. And so I got on the medication and my doctor told me that basically, this is a condition where you’re going to have increased dosage over time.

Cause you’re going to gain weight over time. And there’s nothing you can do about it. My regular doctor was saying you have anxiety and depression. Here’s some medication to help you with that. And it wasn’t until nearly 10 years later, which was a few months ago where I realized through my weight loss journey because of you guys that my thyroid levels were dropping.

And I was having anxiety because I was losing weight. So my thyroid medicine wasn’t matched to my blood levels. So basically when you lose weight with hypothyroidism or gain weight with hypothyroidism, your medicine needs to balance out what’s happening in your body. Right? All of that weight loss, I started to have basically panic attacks right before I had a normal day.

And then right when I laid down, I was like, I can’t breathe. And it was like a shock to my system and it was awful. So I went through two different waves of that within a month and a half of each other. And I was gaining weight back. My diet was the same. My sleep was the same. Everything was the same that I had been doing with the gluten and dairy free.

And then I just call my doctor and I was like, I can’t take it anymore. I can’t take it. I, this needs to be fixed now. And we had a new doctor at that time. He was coming in because they had been trying to find somebody to replace the main doctor that was there because he unfortunately had passed away. So it took,

and we kept getting many endocrinologists come in and that might’ve been it, but there was just this perfect moment where the doctor I needed to be was there. And she said, okay. So it looks like from, even with your last Results, I can tell you that you should have a certain dose Monday through Friday, and then another dose Saturday through Sunday.

And within a few days of doing that, I felt completely normal. Again, anxiety is no joke. I knew it was anxiety and depression from the thyroid. She told me both the doctors within this month and a half, they were telling me, okay, so you’re going to transition from this medicine to this medicine. And I want you to take 88 1 day and 75, 1 day,

alternatively, the day where I took E I had anxiety before bed, the day I took 75, I was depressed. And I know that a lot of people might think like, oh, well that happened to me before. And I didn’t feel that way. I’m a very sensitive person in general. I’m very sensitive with all of my senses. And this is just one of them where I was like,

I know that this is what it is. So when I finally got that result of taking a certain amount, Monday through Friday, and then Saturday and Sunday, since then the weight it’s just been falling off again. And I know if I have anxiety before bed, then I’ll just add an extra day. And that’s what that doctor told me. And she said every 10 to 20 pounds,

that’s that might happen. So be aware of that. And I asked that doctor, I said, so does this mean that if I get down to a healthy weight range, again, I might not need any hypothyroidism medicine at all the Synthroid, right? Yes, actually it does mean that, wow, your original doctor told me that I’m going to be on this medicine forever.

And that’s what I heard. Nothing I can do about it. And so she was like, yeah, you’ll need to be tested regularly. Of course, because the condition, and maybe you would do a very, very low dose for a while and see how it goes. But it is very possible. Not that it happens a lot, but it’s possible that that could be for you if you maintain that.

And then this I’m good. Not going to not do gluten dairy free. Like, yeah. Like my, after a couple of months, my husband was like, let’s go get Popeye’s. And I was like, oh, I don’t know. I mean, I’m like, I don’t know, like I want to work. And then we had it in my stomach hurts so bad.

Like 24 hours, it hurt so bad. I was like this, I can’t believe I felt like this all the time. And I did feel like that. It wasn’t because I was on a healthy diet. Now that was unhealthy. It’s because that’s how my body always reacted to that. Wow. And I’m just now aware of it. Yeah. You don’t realize that feeling until you actually cut it out and taste it again.

And you’re like, oh, that’s that feeling that I didn’t have that I didn’t have the last 30 days now I have it again. It’s normal because if I had a healthy fan, which, or if I had a fried chicken sandwich, I would feel the same. The gluten that was attacking my thyroid, like it on the live. Whereas the,

Through something called molecular mimicry studies show that your body, if you’re gluten sensitive, it detects the gluten as an invader. And the gluten looks like the thyroid molecule through a molecular mimicry. So when your body attacks gluten, it’s also attacking your thyroid. So if you’re gluten sensitive and you have a thyroid issue, every time you’re eating gluten, or if you don’t have a thyroid issue,

every time you’re eating gluten, it’s attacking your thyroid and affecting your ability to lose weight as a result and multiple other symptoms, but weight loss being one of them. And then when you eat dairy that spikes insulin and having high insulin levels also attacks your thyroid. So either one can be triggering for thyroid issues. One of the root causes of PCOS. And I had so many symptoms that were resolved by going gluten,

dairy free that I had no idea. I mean, at first I wasn’t perfect. I would drink those premier protein shakes protein. And I had no idea that had dairy in it. And I felt so silly. I would drink it. And I’m, my throat would like gag. And I would always joke and say that I was lactose intolerant because of the tummy issues I would have after having dairy milkshake or something like that.

But like, I really like my new, I was like this entire, but I kept eating the lactose. And not that I’m lactose intolerant, but that the dairy was bad for my PCLs. That was the language. I should have been telling myself, but I didn’t know. I was diagnosed with PSOs until the end of March of this year. So my mom was like,

oh, it’s like, there’s nothing I can do about it. It doesn’t affect my body any other way. Except the stomach ache. If that’s not true, What the sign, it could, stomach is a sign of like more issues like bloating or there’s like inflammation happening, like to sign up something. So what else did you find that the gluten therapy?

I lost my train of thought. I was thinking about the strawberry milkshake. I wish that I, oh my gosh. I wish I could have one. No, I wouldn’t have one. If it’s totally not, You know what? Speaking of Strava, I’m going to sidetrack. Like, honestly, you can have anything with like a dairy free version of it.

You can add anything that’s dairy that has dairy in it, but dairy free, like go to your kitchen, blend up some coconut milk with fresh strawberries, like a teaspoon of vanilla. And there you go. A strawberry shake. No big deal. Okay. So at first I didn’t realize I was consuming dairy. I was like, oh, I’m dairy,

gluten, dairy free. And I actually made a full an album on Facebook where I’m like PCU S my PCs journey. And I’m just going to post everything. And I scroll back and I’m looking at myself, eating these pre-made salads with cheese in them. And I am holding up this premiere shake, like smile, look at me, I’m doing the right thing.

And I’m like, oh my gosh, I had no idea that I had no idea that dressing had gluten in it. I felt so silly, but eventually I kept watching your posts and you just kept putting it in my mind to check for things. And so on. Eventually I checked it, I think one day I drank a shake and I felt like my throat was closing up.

And I’m like, what is happening to me? And I think it’s because I was eliminating dairy pretty much 99% other than the shake. And, and I think I was having like some sort of mild allergic reaction. And I looked at the container and like, is there something in here that I didn’t realize? And I’m like, oh, there’s milk in that day.

I was like, no, I’m, you know, my husband can drink this. I’m not drinking it anymore. And I found it’s called only what you need. Oh yeah. It’s allergen-free, nut-free, you know, if you have any sort of allergies, it’s got no allergens in it. It’s got no synthetic things and it’s got no dairy, no gluten it’s.

And they have a few different flavors, but I drink the dark chocolate. And I knew that dark chocolate was good because you guys had mentioned that. But I got to say my whole life, I hated dark chocolate, but after my PCMs diagnosis, and I started removing those things from my diet and I had dark chocolate. It’s delicious. I didn’t like all the,

all the healthy food is actually delicious. And all the food is not delicious. I was training my body to think that unhealthy food was good for me. Just because the calories were low. I had no idea. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, like a lot of those foods, they have, they’ll say something like low fat, low calorie, but in fact,

they’re actually missing the vital nutrients and they have probably more sugar, things like that. But it just like, honestly, it’s also, we were just Googling. Yeah. Tanya was looking up only what you eat protein. I pulled up the protein shake. The chocolate one has Monkfruit extract in it. I personally don’t suggest sweeteners, but if it’s working for you and you feel fine,

that’s okay. Oh, it says have artificial sweeteners in it. I just didn’t understand the of it. Natural sweetener actually Monkfruit extract, but it still has the insulin effect. It can really spike your any sweetener. That’s like a thousand times sweeter than sugar. Like the taste of it can spike your insulin levels, like trick your body into thinking that you’re eating sugar and that’s the problem with PCOS.

So, Yeah. And it’s also individual to each person. So like, if it’s, if you’re drinking it and you feel fine, it’s, it’s helping you don’t feel any side effects and continue. But yeah. You know what I read? That makes sense. And I’ll, I’ll tell you why. When I drink one, I feel great. Then,

you know, they see that you should have like 60 grams, at least a protein a day. If not more, you know, there’s some people who say they should have like 200 grams per day. I’m like, how many, how many they’re like, how do you get that? I don’t know. I don’t eat red meat. So I don’t,

I don’t know, but I don’t even know for things in red meat. What am I talking about? But like, how are you getting that protein? And I was like, look up like just protein supplements or whatever, like powders or something. And I was like, you know what, why don’t I just drink two of my shakes a day?

And cause that would make it 40 grams of protein total. And then with my dinner and my lunch is what I learned to do was that I would have leftovers for lunch. And that’s just the easiest way to do it so that you only have to worry about one meal a day. And you know, that next day is going to be gluten and dairy free.

So that’s really what has helped kick off everything the most is having leftovers for lunch every day. Yeah. From dinner from the night before we do the same thing, basically every day, that’s like our process. We have, we use dinner for the night. I think I saw you guys do that. And I think that’s what sparked that idea. Cause you get to watch your stories and I’m like,

oh, they’re doing this. And I didn’t really put it together at the moment of this is what I’m going to do because of them. But I kept seeing you do it. And then eventually it was something that I decided to do. So if you guys haven’t been watching their stories and watching them, you need to do it every day because it might,

even though you think like, oh, this is going to change my life right now. There are these little seeds of wisdom that they dropped every day that will just become a natural thing for you. Oh, thank you. Why do your life? And that’s what happened to me. So I think I remember I was watching something and said, I need more protein.

So I did drink two shakes for breakfast. And I felt exactly what you’re talking about, where it was like, wait a minute. I feel worse with this. I don’t feel better. So I just come back to one again and I didn’t have any problems. And I only did it for a few days, but I do remember feeling like, like I had just had a coffee or something.

I see. I see. Yeah. Yeah. If you, if you’re looking to get enough protein in your diet, it could be as simple as having like three or four ounces of salmon with dinner and then adding like hemp protein to your breakfast, making sure you’re having nuts seeds throughout the day. Yeah. Beans. If you’re a vegetarian beans as your carb option.

Cause it’s high in protein. Yes. Things like that. We have lots of beans and I’ve been doing rice and gluten-free pasta and stuff. So Tracy back a little bit. Cause I just remembered. But some of the other symptoms that are better now because my gluten and dairy free diets. So I didn’t have necessarily a problem with acne, but I did have a problem that developed,

I want to say up to a year before my diagnosis, where I would have these like random skin problems, like a skin problem on my scalp and on my thighs. And I was like, what is going on? I don’t know what this is. And they were like dark Skin, But it’s not acne, but it was like acne. Okay.

So it was something like that. And it was just like one little thing. So it was like, oh, well maybe you had a scratch. And then it like something bad happened. Like something you’d got dirty or whatever. Like something like that. That’s what the dermatologist told me since I went gluten dairy free, like, like, and I remember like I needed to,

like, I felt like I needed to shower like five times a day because I kept feeling inflamed. It was inflammation. It was like acne, but not acne like on my scalp. And then on my, I don’t know if it was like, because of shaving bumps or something like that. Like when you, I know if you don’t know, like,

I don’t know. I don’t know if you had like that problem, like where it just like was like inflammation on my thighs when I would shave. And you would be like a problem as a result to that. And I didn’t realize that the dairy was causing these. And so when people say, oh, well acne is a problem. Like acne is a symptom of PCLs,

it wasn’t acne. It was like some sort of skin rash. It could be like skin tags. It could be like dark skin patches, which are also like a symptom of insulin resistance as well as inflammation. She was just like, it was like an infection. It was like some section like on my scalp that I had, it’s not unusual to have this.

It was a cyst. It was like a, it was a cyst, but it wasn’t acne, but it was like inflamed too. And there was like, there were like, I don’t know if you just need me cream to put on it. And then yeah, you could probably edit this out of there. Cause it’s sounds like it’s grossly than it is.

But like it’s, it was like, okay, that happened. And then I had the same issue with my, my breast. I had assist there too. And then I had a cyst on my leg. So that’s the word I was looking for. But like, yeah, it was a system, my breasts and on my thigh and on my head and it was different times.

And I went to the dermatologist, I went to the breast cancer center and they were like, it’s just so it sounds like after you went gluten and dairy free, it didn’t happen again. No, no. It, it went away. My sister went away and I went away. My thigh, I have a scar on my, on my scalp still because I was like,

you know, when you wash your hair, like you’re touching it and things like that. But like, so the stuff that I was like getting, like I thought I was cause my paternal grandmother, who’s still here. She has breast cancer and it was happening around the time she got diagnosed. So I was really scared that that’s what was, and it was a scary,

it just happened to be the same week that she felt about. So they, they gave me a pamphlet and they said, try not to eat chocolate, try not to drink caffeine. And that won’t happen. And I was like, okay, I don’t know. And that inflammation. Yeah. So that’s what they told me. And I think I stopped drinking.

No I didn’t, I didn’t stop drinking caffeine. It wasn’t until I got my PCs diagnosis. And it, that was like, I’m going to say two months after that, I still had the system. My breast is still in the system. I thought I still, this, this is my head. And I got the PCs diagnosis. My friendly seed sent me your page.

And you said to cut out caffeine, gluten and dairy and day one. I cut out caffeine and I didn’t have any caffeine withdrawal, headache at all. Oh wow. My system, my breasts. I have no idea what I went away. I just know it’s gone. It’s not there anymore. And it was, it was fast. I didn’t have any more issues with the system,

my thigh up on my scalp. I just have like, like it’s, it’s healed, but it’s, it’s uncomfortable, but it’s, it’s healed. Like it’s gone. I stopped having migraines weekly. I stopped having daily headaches. I stopped having adjustive IBS issues. It’s amazing. I had so many things. I also started drinking a gallon of water a day too,

and realize how dehydrated I was and I big, yeah. I had no idea. How do you hydrated? I was until I started drinking a gallon of water a day and I was like, oh my God, I, I know you, no idea. So like just the combination of the gluten and dairy free and the drinking a gallon of water a day.

And then the stop drinking of the caffeine of waiting soy when I could, all of those factors helped with that part. So it’s, it’s interesting because everybody’s PCs experience is different. Like, I didn’t have problems with acne, but I had random cysts that would pop up and they would get inflamed. I like didn’t have problems with a period my whole life,

because I was on birth control. I stopped having a period. And then when it came back, I was like, okay, well I think I remember that being this painful, like from my first one when I was like 11 or 12. So yeah, because I hadn’t had one for over a decade because of the pill. So maybe this is normal.

It’s not as painful as when I had the ovarian cyst sicker. Maybe I just have migraines because of another reason. I don’t know. And I, it just, I kept telling him, like, it’s what the doctors would say to me Was also yeah. From everything you’re describing, like it’s just goes to show how much of a spectrum piece us is,

meaning that a lot of people will experience either period, irregularities or people will experience not period issues. People will experience acne, but other people will experience. No, actually some people have hair loss. Some people have facial hair. It’s just such a spectrum of symptoms, which is another reason why, like, in your experience, you were diagnosed so late with PCU,

as you know, for like almost, it sounds like almost 10 years, it’s possible that you may have had peace to us and they didn’t diagnose it. And so many people have experienced that. One thing is like a very common factor. Is that not being diagnosed for so long? Yeah. And there was a lot of shame of that too, because I’m like,

I have assessed. And like, one of them like got infected and I was like, but I’m washed myself all the time. And I was like, so I was, it was a virtual appointment. I called I’m like, this is so embarrassing. Like, I don’t know why this is happening. I’ve never had a problem with acne. And it was really shameful.

And I feel like this is really hard for me even talk like this is going to be recorded and people are going to hear this, but it was really embarrassing and shameful to be like, I have this, this problem. And it’s like that the doctor said that it might’ve been infected and it just, you know, and then obviously the medicine helps and you know,

but I would just keep having like similar problems, like parts of my body. And I’m like, what am I doing wrong? And then with the weight pain, what am I doing wrong? And there’s a lot of like, I can’t let shame control me. So I just, my problem was is that I just said, okay, this is just something that I have to deal with right now,

for whatever reason God intended. And I’m not gonna let it affect my mood. I’m not going to let it affect my emotions or my spirit. I’m just gonna continue to be confident and just say, this is what’s supposed to be happening right now, I guess. And if it’s an issue that I, I know that I’m going to get assigned somewhere,

the doctor’s going to know the doc. I’m just going to trust my doctor to tell me this is what it is. And fortunately, because they only look at the one reason why you’re there that day, they look at the cyst and they say, okay, well, it could be a breast tumor. It could be this. It could be that they don’t look and say,

okay, well, let’s look at your history. So you have a cyst burst 15 years ago. Were you diagnosed with anything with that? What are some, some, you know, not one doctor’s going to do that. They’re just going to look at the symptom on its own. And that’s my general doctor. He said, okay, well, your test clearly shows that you have mild depression and anxiety.

And that’s not like, yes, you said that your grandmother passed, but you shouldn’t have like guilt and shame. That’s associated with depression. And you know, things like that. And you shouldn’t have like this feeling like you have a weight on your chest, 24 7 with the anxiety and, you know, taking out the, the caffeine, obviously adjusting my thyroid levels,

taking out the gluten and the dairy. Like I haven’t had this problems at all since then. And when I, I know it’s only been a few months, but when you’ve been suffering with stuff like that every day, your whole life, and then people just don’t know, because you don’t share that, you know, you’re not going to share those things with everybody.

And like, you just put a smile on and you know, not that it brings you down because you just don’t let it bring you down. And you just think like, okay, well the doctor didn’t seem worried about it, so I’m not going to be worried about it. Yeah. And it’s one of the hardest parts for a lot of people as they go through for so many years telling you themselves,

that’s going to be okay, I’ll follow what the doctor says. They keep feeling worse, but they’re still trying to stay happy. And like, it’s a battle of like dealing with the symptoms and trying to manage like your mental health at the same time. So, I mean, I just wanna say shout out to Lacey for her recommending us to you.

Cause I’m so happy to be able to find this and like, try to find these diet and lifestyle changes. Cause it always makes us so happy to hear. I mean, we hate to hear your, the experience you went through, but we at least, we’re very happy to hear that you were able to find what worked for you, you know,

through the help of your doctor through the help of us. And that’s just like, I think that’s a beautiful ending to like, not anybody that it keeps going on, but it’s, it’s, it’s a beautiful conclusion to, you know, like some of the things that you were going through. And I want to talk about my cycle too. For a second.

My cycle is on time. If not a day early, it lasts three days. It’s still slightly heavy and, but normal pain. And I remember looking back thinking, how did I not drag myself to the hospital? How did I not do that? And yeah, like it, my cycle is completely normal and I still have, and I, I noticed that like at least I have a reason for it.

Like I still have, like, I know that we have a cortisol dysregulation. So if I try to work out, that’s a little too hard and I get dizzy and I get stressed and I hold on to all that weight from the stress. I know that. That’s why, and I need to like, like you made a story the other day that I saved it.

And he said, if you do work out and you feel like you’re meditating afterwards, then that’s a PCs friendly workout. And I was like, I remember that forever because even though I do work here with the slow weighted workout, sometimes I’ll do, and I love mad fit on YouTube. I don’t know if you’ve heard of that fit, but Matt has some types of,

of workouts. And some of them are like, you know, apartment friendly. So there’s no jumping or weights. And I’m like, man, I wish I had like a workout where they did the whole workout with me and took the, you know, and there’s some that are only two, but you guys have the best ones. And so what I’ll do is I’ll just watch you do it.

And then I’ll pause the video and then I’ll repeat that. And at first I’m going to, I’ll be honest. The first is, was cause I’m like, man, I wish there was a full video that we could do it together. Stop, take a break and go back and look. And that’s what I’m supposed to be doing. Knowing how much it’s helping so many ways.

Like the reason why I actually went to an endocrinologist. Well, it was because I had my regular appointment, but the reason why I brought up in my endocrinologist appointment, all my menstruation issues that I was having. Cause before he didn’t was because we were actually planning on expanding our family last year. And I was about this time last year, I want to say it was maybe November,

December one of the burrs and the fall. And we were trying to conceive and we couldn’t, we were like, this is weird, you know, with my first son, the first time we tried, it was one and done and there he was. And it was just because I happened to come off birth control, like right before, maybe I’ve heard that divine timing,

whatever it was. But before I had my PCs diagnosis, I had, again, the inconsistent periods, the painful periods, and I was using Olivia the fertility tracker to help. And we had an early miscarriage and it was very, it was a very, very early miscarriage. Like I don’t even think I would have been able to like go and get it detected,

but I know it was a miscarriage because of the contractions and the pain. And so after that I was like, okay, something’s wrong. Or maybe that happened for a reason and I’m supposed to know about it later. And I do feel like it happened for a reason. And it helped me with a lot of perspective on things, but medical side of it,

that experience led me to talk about it with my doctor. And if I hadn’t, she never would have said the words metabolic syndrome. Wow. Interesting. Hopefully we’ll be able to, and you know, the, with all the weight, just literally just dropping off my body, hopefully we can save soon. We’re not actively trying right now. Cause I’m like,

well, I finally figured it out. Just finally figured it out, Such a struggle to get to that conclusion If I only figured it out and now we, and then we wanted to expand our family. What do I do? Do I expand my family and then deal with the weight that comes in the hormone changes that comes with that. And I finally figured out my hormones that do I lose all the weight that I want to lose first?

It’s it’s a big struggle for me. Yeah. It’s definitely like just weighing what, what you want to do, what your priorities are. But I think from one perspective, focusing on your health, focusing on your goals just for a short period of time, until you feel like you’re happy with where you are and then going to maybe wanting to expand your family afterwards,

perhaps that could help with the process and it can make it even easier after you, after you give birth to kind of go back to where you were to just by finding that balance right now. But yeah, I don’t know. Like, I mean, I wouldn’t change my diet when I, if I got pregnant, it would be, yeah. What the weight still fall off or I don’t know that.

Do you know anybody who had the same situation as me where they got pregnant and they’re still doing this gluten and dairy free thing and how’s that affected affects her weight. Have you had that experience yet? It’s really individual. I get a lot of DM, not a lot, but like I’ve had a few DMS of people asking like what they should do.

And I really, yeah, I really can’t like give a recommendation for like what, or do you mean during birth or after? During pregnancy for me is what I was. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well during, I mean, it’s a personal choice. I wouldn’t personally make the choice. ’cause it’s like pregnancy has a different necessity. Yeah, exactly it pregnancy.

Yeah. You need different news. I, I personally, I’m going to share what I would personally do is that kosher, I would personally go gluten and dairy free or continue and continue. Sorry, just because I know the effect it has on my hormones and I need to be in good shape to carry that baby. And not just like, wait,

like I’m talking about insulin levels, inflammation, levels, things like that because I’m going to give my gut microbiome to my baby. And if I’m eating inflammatory foods, then that’s going to be passed down to if I have metabolic syndrome, it can be passed down to. So I’m going to maintain myself. And for me, that’s being gluten and dairy free and a bunch of Other things not having gluten or dairy.

I’m not sure what the baby will be missing besides like what calcium from the dairy. But there are so many other alternate Tablespoons of chia seeds, same amount of calcium as a cup of Dairy Tablespoons of what was that? She is seeds, chia seeds. Yeah. And there’s all the other foods that have calcium as well. So like, I’m not really sure what would be missing if you didn’t have good dairy.

But of course, like for anyone, if you’re gluten dairy and you get pregnant, I think it’s best to just consult with your doctor. Who’s helping with your pregnancy and just be like, Hey, I’m gluten dairy free. I want to continue doing my pregnancy. Do you see any issues? I mean, we don’t think they would be interested, but it’s always best to work with.

Yeah. I’m not going to, I’m not going to see what my doctor’s team OPG. My first pregnancy. I’m pretty sure that he was w w w before we even like had an appointment, he sat me in his office and he was like, yeah. So when you’re pregnant, you should take prenatals. And this, and I was like, okay,

well, I’m already taking those. And it’s like, yeah. And you should take insert MLM shake here. And I was like, not doing that. So that’s why I was asking you, because I don’t know if that’s necessarily a trusted summaries and I’m not going to change my doctors. Cause I like them otherwise. But Please, they just told you to take a shake,

basically like, like a, like a non, It was all vegetables, but that’s no shade to MLM, but that’s what they all say. And then, you know, sometime later you find out that that’s not necessarily true. And I just didn’t want to add anything extra into my body that I don’t have to want to do it the natural way as not,

you know, you know? Yeah. I mean, you’re taking your prenatal. I mean, you do what you feel is right. I just feel like if you want nutrition advice, you go to a dietician, you know, dieticians should work with the doctor. They should come up with a conclusion. Yeah. And there are prenatal dieticians as well,

who can really focus on that? I was worried about the vitamin D I didn’t know about the cheese scenes. I don’t think I’ve had chia seeds before. So I’m going to have to give the, what do you normally put those in Dairy free milk? It’s like a boost because dairy free milk is like, not like packed with, And then for yogurt or things like to meet like chia,

seed pudding, things like that. You could add it to a smoothie. Yeah. You could make smoothies. We do that sometimes because it has fiber as well. The hybrid Protein Gelatinous, like, yeah. It adds a texture. Yeah. I’ll have to get that a try and something else Before we go. We’d love to ask you for anyone listening,

who has been newly diagnosed, who’s going through PCs right now. What word of inspiration could you give to them to help them, you know, keep going and help them to investigate their health. I would say to have patience and try to be intuitive with your body. At first, I don’t recommend this longterm because the reason why I stopped and started for so many years was with the calorie restriction and counting and things like that.

But journaling, whether that means writing in a journal or taking a picture of yourself and the food you eat and just a couple of things and posting them on your social media. So you can look back and say, okay, I remember eating this and feeling this way. And it’s really just, self-reflection having patience with that. And honestly, I know it sounds like you asked me to do this,

but I didn’t, you didn’t like looking at your page every day. Like, does it really does help in ways you might not realize and amazing. It’s so encouraging and I have not met. And I’ve, you know, I looked up PCO stuff before my friends sent you your information. And there’s just, even with people who are PCs focused on their social media and PCs,

dieticians, nobody is as all conclusive as you guys are because you’re PCs dietician. And is that the correct word? Dietician and a PCs fitness instructor. So like both of those working together, there could not be a better team. There could not be better. It helps. It helps me so much. And I think for me personally, everybody has their own way,

but being vulnerable and taking pictures of the food I was eating and say, okay, like, I don’t do that now. I don’t need to. But at the beginning I did, because I would say, okay, is this a food that I would be proud of sharing? That was kind of like what I was going at. Like, oh,

I’m so proud of this. I’m eating these salads that I have these proteins. But then I looked back after like thinking, okay, like my stomach was still hurting and all this stuff. And I didn’t realize that was something to look out for until I kept watching your page. And you were telling me all the symptoms to look out for. So like my personal journal helped me realize those things and help me eliminate.

And you gave so many good ideas of things to do. And you know, over time, I just honestly, like I don’t crave. I don’t crave any of those things anymore that I would create before. And it’s just so natural just to wake up and drink my protein shake and maybe have breakfast with that and then have leftovers for dinner. And then maybe I’ll have a snack during the day.

But the snacks that you guys suggested are so healthy that I don’t really crave any other snacks, like yeah. Yeah. There’s some things that are, gluten-free like, and I’m not going to name any brands, but there is some gluten-free popcorn out there, but I have that, there’s something in that that makes me want to have the whole bag. So I don’t know.

It’s just empty carbs. Most of the time, it doesn’t have any protein or healthy fats, Even, even though it’s low calories, it makes me want, and I don’t want to have that. I didn’t realize that that’s not something I was supposed to be happening in my body. And so I think you had mentioned like the bark thins and you know,

like little things like that, where I was like, oh, I have like one or two of these. If I have a craving for chocolate and not crave anymore. And it getting, so It’s just taking a bit of adjustment, replacing some foods with this over time. And then you finally have like a complete repertoire In your pantry to like exactly what you want.

And you have to try five different five cream cheeses before you find the one that grades your cream cheese. Shouldn’t smell like a foot. It should smell like cream cheese. And it’s just like to you, everybody’s different. Like somebody could be like, like that. But like, for me, like it shouldn’t smell like repulsive to me. Good to me.

It should taste good. And so I had to try four different cream cheeses before I was like yak, yak, yak, but I didn’t stop because you kept showing me, keep going, keep trying. That’s what I’m hoping that people don’t do is they say, oh, just switched to gluten and dairy free, but they don’t say, Hey, that’s going to be hard to do.

You’re going to have to go through 20. You know, it could be one brand and you find it and you like it. And you’re done. I got lucky with that for my, for the bagel that I wanted. But with the cream cheese, it took me four different types of cream. I don’t like chickpea pasta personally for myself, but I like the corn pasta.

Gluten-free so having that really helped me so much because you find that I’m not missing out and with calorie restrictions, you’re not just only missing out as you know, your body lacks the nutrition to be able to function. And it makes your metabolism slower. It destroys your metabolism again, it gives you, I don’t know, maybe I think I had PCs already,

but sometimes I think like, well maybe that calorie restriction triggered something in me. That’s probably not true, but it’s just, you guys have entirely changed my life and thank you. And you’re so welcome. I wish that I could be more loquacious and more distinct, but it’s really hard to exact cause it’s, I feel like I’m being kind of vague about it,

but you guys really have changed my life. Like I could not. I’m just so grateful. I wish I met you when I was 15. And like, I wish I met you before I was diagnosed with anxiety, depression. I wish I met you before I had my first child so that my child would, like you said, have the natural development that he deserves,

you know, and we’re going to have to work on that. And hopefully, you know, he’s a boy, so hopefully, but I could look back and say I regret, but I think that everything happens for a reason. And I think even, you know, as I know, I’m, I, I kind of overshared a little bit, but I honestly feel like oversharing at this point is probably the best thing to do.

No matter how, like somebody listened to about some of the symptoms that I had, might’ve been deterred by it and be like, oh, that’s too much. Maybe I should stop listening. But others it’s like, wait a minute. I have that. And then they might be like, oh, maybe see. And I can, Taylin are saying this for a reason and I should actually do it.

And you know, cause I kept telling everybody around me to follow me, like nobody followed the gluten and dairy free regimen until they saw me lose 20 pounds until they saw me lose 30 pounds. And I’m like, oh, like, okay, I’m going to eat. I’m going to need, I’m going to need to recommendations. Now The proof, the proof is in the dairy-free pudding as telling Alexa,

Saying, That’s awesome Going to keep falling off and I’m going to keep feeling good. And I just know that, and it’s not something I, because I put in the work to find what I like. It’s not work. Yeah. Yeah. Part of it Is to, for everything. I don’t have to think about it. It’s just something that’s natural.

Yeah. It limits my ability to go to restaurants. But most restaurants have some sort of, yeah. If not at all. Yeah. Yeah. Most, a lot of them have gluten free on the menu too. You just have to look for it. Yeah. Some now some places have like a whole gluten-free separate menu that you can look at.

Like were there the last week they just brought a separate menu for gluten free items. Like it’s spreading. And now trader Joe’s has like a whole aisle for gluten-free items. It’s it’s spreading and it would make it easier. Eventually for everyone who’s going gluten dairy free. But it’s just part of the process. Find those things Really wish that the pizza places would get on the dairy free.

Cause they all have None. I mean the local ones will we’ll do that, but you know, I think Domino’s has gluten-free but they don’t have that anyways, but it makes it easier And have more Fun. I feel like if you’re going to do gluten free and if you own a place and you, you have, gluten-free try the, try, the dairy free.

There’s so many good substitutes out there that like in your, your, you know, your customers will only increase. Absolutely. But yeah. Thank you so much for the kind words you had for us. We really appreciate that. It makes us very happy to know that we’re helping in those kinds of ways. Cause that’s the whole point of our page,

our podcasts, everything. So full of gratitude. You really it’s. It’s so hard to express how full of gratitude that I am. And I hope that, cause I know I didn’t go over a lot of the things in the podcast, but oh, we covered a lot. You missing some things you could go back and watch that live and watch them.

Cause you know, my experience might not be like yours, but they have lives with, If anyone interested, if you go to our Instagram page, peace, USDOT, weight loss, you’ll see that IgG life that we posted there with Heather. So you can watch that as well. In addition to this and Heather will also put your Instagram onto the podcast subscription that you’re okay with that.

So if anyone has any questions or anything, you can go to Heather’s page and ask her and yeah. Oh yeah. I’ve had people message me about cause one of the things I talked about was the brands that I liked and I’ve had people that, yeah. So if you want to message me, it’s at medium Heather Marie. So you can definitely message me that I have plenty of recommendations for you.

And I get so I’m so excited when people ask me about that. Cause I’m like, yay. Like just having other people feel better and just make yeah. Awesome. This episode will definitely help a lot of sisters feel better. So thank you so much for coming on Heather. It was such a pleasure having you, we appreciate all your kind of Yeah.

And all the inspiration for all the sisters listening, I think can do some useful, helpful for the community. Yeah. Thanks so much. Thank you for changing my life. You’re very welcome. And it was all, all credit goes to you honestly. Thank you everyone for listening. We’ll be back next week with another episode until then take care. Bye.

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