Kail Lowry‘s PCOS Journey Pt. 2 (WHERE IS SHE NOW?!)

Kail Lowry, television personality from Teen Mom 2, social media influencer, business owner, and a mother of 4, joins the podcast to update us on how she’s been doing since her PCOS diagnosis!

You’ll learn about the success she’s had managing her PCOS and the difficulties she has been experiencing since her diagnosis!

We answer Kail’s questions about making quick meals to support her PCOS friendly diet as well as topics like working out, medications, doctors, and much more!

Tune in to hear all about Kail’s experience and progress! You can follow Kail Lowry on Instagram as well as her podcasts Coffee Convos & Baby Mamas No Drama!

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Full Episode transcript:

Welcome everybody. Today is part two with Kail Lowery. She is a television personality book, author, social media, influencer, and mother of four, as well as a PCOS Cyster who has been on a PCOS journey since our first episode with her welcome Kail. You Guys.

Hi. How have you been? I’m been okay. I’m slightly overwhelmed still with the PCLs stuff. Since our first podcast together, I’ve had like an overwhelming, I guess like influx of people who think they have PCOS or have PCOS and they send me so much information and I try to be a little selective on where I actually take information from. And if it contradicts pretty much anything that you guys have told me,

I’m like, probably not. I know you probably opened up yourself to the whole world. That PCO is like as an advocate. So you must be getting a lot of questions. What are like the most common questions? Well, I’ve had people tell me, oh, like just work out and or what do you do to work out? And I’m in this like mindset where I know that my diet changes are the number one thing right now.

And I don’t want to focus on anything else outside of that until I get that under control. And so that’s kind of where I tell, well, like that’s pretty much where I start. When people ask me about it, I’m just like, you have to get your diet under control and I’m still working on that. So I don’t really have advice for you,

but people are with you. And I know last time we talked, I was telling you how I was struggling with the diet part. And I still am. Now. It’s like, I don’t, I don’t really have an appetite. So when I do, it’s kind of like, whatever is around, but I’m finally at the, in a place where I want to start like incorporating workouts.

And so I just, I don’t feel like in a great place to like give advice yet. So I just tell people to go listen to your podcasts. That’s totally fine because you are on that journey, figuring it out for yourself and what’s healthy for you. And that’s not an easy journey to be on. There’s no like book manual. How does kale Labrie rivers herpes,

you know, as you know, everyone’s different. Yeah. And I do agree like the F the first and most important thing is nutrition is diet. And then exercise afterwards, even though I’m like a personal trainer, I still agree that nutrition is the most important aspect. Yeah. If you don’t have that down, a lot of your effort with workouts is really just pointless.

If you’re not eating. I mean, I think that goes for, for everyone though. Like, not just necessarily PCLs I think that’s people in general, right? Like if you’re working out every day, but you’re eating whatever you want at all times, you’re not going to see the results that you want to see. So I had a small win and I tagged you guys on it yesterday.

I went to my annual visit and I don’t get me wrong. I love my GYN. I think he’s great. But I was a little upset and I felt like I was the epitome of all the graphics I see on Instagram about, did your doctor just tell you this and like, just put you in like a generalization, like a category. And because I have so much respect for him as a doctor,

I was so upset when I was like, you know, Metformin didn’t work for me and I don’t have any intentions of starting it again. You know, what are, what are my next steps? And he’s like getting on the pill. And I just literally like my eyes just welled up. Cause I was like that. I just have so much respect for him.

I just didn’t expect that. Yeah. Yeah. Especially after you’ve been going through for last couple of months with PCO S and I don’t know why that’s, that’s the first thing they resort to. I don’t know why it’s the first thing either, but that is generally what they’ve been taught. And so I almost don’t expect anything else from any gynecologist. And if I hear something other than birth control,

I’m like excited that they did research or like beyond, you know, what they’ve learned in school about PCLs, but generally doctors, that’s what they have learned. And there’s, there’s just so many conditions that doctors need to learn about that. It can be really overwhelming for them to know all of the ins and outs of like diet and lifestyle changes for each specific condition.

And so since that’s not their forte and that’s not what they studied, their first suggestion is birth control. That’s what they have studied. So if you’re looking for diet and lifestyle changes, you would have to look somewhere else. Unfortunately, then you’re a gyno and it’s unfortunate because the guy knows the first person you talk to. Yeah. Have you tried seeing a naturopathic doctor?

Yup. Actually I was gonna say that next. So a friend of mine texted me yesterday and that’s what she suggested. And I don’t know why that just never really crossed my mind. Oh, really? Yeah. It might be worth trying. Cause it’s, it’s not a mainstream of like, it’s not talked about mainstream, but they can be just as helpful as quote unquote,

regular doctors. I don’t know they are regularly, But they are super helpful because they’ve reversed PCLs versus sisters. Like the ones I’ve been to, well, you can do these supplements, these lifestyle changes. They all told me to go gluten and dairy free. I went to several, cause I was a little bit like unsure what a naturopathic doctor was.

So I just went to several to compare what they were saying, but they were all saying the same thing and it worked. Okay. So that’s definitely something that I will consider doing there. I pass one every single day on my way to work. And I don’t know why I never thought, but when she said that I didn’t even respond yet. Cause I was going to ask you guys about something like that and I didn’t respond to her,

but I will. But other thing that everyone is messaging me as like to see an endocrinologist, which I still haven’t done. And I think we touched on that last time. I just have not had the time, but once the kids go back to school and things like that, I’ll have like a little bit more time during the day to schedule that.

I just, I just know it’s the diet. Like I know that that is the number one culprit for me. And sometimes you need help with that too. Like a sup like a supplement. That’s why like a naturopathic doctor. And even like, we talk about endocrinologists doctors are amazing as well, but naturopathic doctors, they try to push you towards more like natural supplements to help you get a different hormonal balances in line.

Which of course is important with diet change too, because sometimes they can be just something that’s off within. Like, they’ll see if you have excess estrogen and then they’ll tell you what supplement to take and what foods to eat for that. And it’s not as like immediate as an endocrinologist or a gyno, like the solutions, you know, you obviously, you don’t just like take a supplement.

You’re fine. The next day, any months you gotta be consistent. Yeah. But we did see in your story yesterday, you did have a great wins to celebrate and we’re very happy about it. Yeah. So I I’m down 12 pounds. So that was a big deal for me. And I had to actually correct my doctor because I asked him like where my weight was last time.

And he, he said it was up, but I said, no, no. Like I checked the scale when I walked in this door and like, you’re not about to put a higher number on there. I got back on the scale. I said, look, it’s down 12. And he was like, oh wow. Like he, he recognized it too.

And I I’m excited. I’m happy I do. I give credit to basketball though, because I don’t know. I just feel better. Like, I don’t know. I don’t ha I can’t like pinpoint it, but I just feel better. So I think that’s really the only thing that I can pinpoint outside of like trying my best to eat. Okay.

That’s the only other like real change I’m saying, oh, basketball. I don’t know. But that’s what I’m saying. Sometimes when you target blood sugar control and you reduce those insulin levels with obesity specifically, and diet changes, you know, you stop retaining water. Your metabolism works better. You’re burning what you’re eating instead of carrying it as fat. And sometimes like just diet alone.

Doesn’t cut it. Especially with PCLs that 40 to one ratio in the Odessa tall, we were missing that in ourselves. We need that ratio for proper metabolism of sugar. And that supplement combined with the diet changes. Like lots of people are saying what you’re saying. Good. Well, that makes me feel good then that’s great. I hope more people.

I hadn’t heard of it until I met you guys. So I hope that people can kind of know about it and see it on my story and kind of look it up, do their own research and maybe try it because I feel like it can help a lot of people, they just don’t know about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s not in our stars and talked about as much as like for a minute doctor.

Exactly. Cause I, I had heard of like Metformin OSMP, things like that, but I had never heard of Avastin until I met you guys. That’s another one that I’ve heard more and more recently about was epic. I see a lot of people talking about it. I think it’s like a newer drug and I’m not sure I don’t have enough data on it to like give a certain answer.

But is that something your doctors have mentioned before too? People mentioned it to me and I, I brought her up to my doctor. He was not, he, well, he was a little apprehensive to put me on Metformin in the first place. But prior to like meeting you guys, I didn’t know what I know now. And so I was like willing to try anything.

He was not even going to consider putting me on a civic, I think. And don’t quote me on this because I’m not a doctor, but I think it’s more associated with diabetes, but it can also help people who have PCLs if that’s the route, you know, that they want to go. But I think it’s more typically used for diabetes. Yeah.

Th that’s the same thing for Metformin to a diabetes drug, but I’m not sure like why they choose one over the other. Yeah. I don’t, I didn’t really ask questions and he didn’t seem to have, I mean, I don’t know if he had enough knowledge on it or he just, he didn’t have any interest in putting me on that. So I don’t really have any interest in trying it,

but if it works for other people, I mean that’s on them, you know? Yeah. Did you hear about that sister who took Obasi tall and finally got her period after a year of not having one Credible. I see those kinds of messages on Instagram a lot. How does that even happen? Oh, FaceTime helps with healing, insulin resistance, a common root issue that most PCFS sisters have.

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please. So I can give you a serving. Now, hold it for 60 seconds. Head over to pure spectrum cbd.com and use the code, the sisterhood one word for 10% off. Can I stop now? Nope. You got 30 more seconds. What other diet changes have you made? Like what other changes other than Obasi Tom, I’m trying really hard to be gluten-free.

I do have gluten sometimes, so it hasn’t been completely come out of my diet. I have slowed down on dairy again, still not dairy free, but making better choices. And that’s where I’m trying to focus is the small wins. I was like addicted to cheese. Last time we talked. No, I don’t. I’m not super addicted to cheese anymore.

Maybe I’m just a recovering. I don’t know. Yeah. Just like small changes and I do struggle with carbs and I think it’s probably because my sugar is not what blood sugar is not balanced. So like sometimes, especially at night, like I’ll go hours and hours and hours without eating. And then I just I’m craving carbs at night, probably because it hasn’t been balanced throughout the day.

I’m struggling With that. Not having carbs throughout the day. And then at the end of the day, like nine o’clock, 10 o’clock at night, and then I’m awake. Normally I go to bed by 9 30, 10 o’clock. So I’m up. And then I’m up craving carbs. So that’s where I’m. But again, I think it’s just like the inconsistency throughout the day and what I’m eating and like how much I’m eating.

So definitely my fault. I’m going to get it under control because I know that there are, I’m making changes, so I’m capable of it. I haven’t gotten there yet. Yeah. Well then it’s not your fault. It takes so much time or in an effort to like get the right things going. So it’s all your fault at all. I would just think about like,

switching that up, like the way you’re doing the carbs right now, instead of like, you know, not having as much during the day and then having more in the evening, you can just reverse that and had more throughout the day and have less in the evening. It’s probably going to get rid of some of those cravings, Just spreading them out throughout the day.

You know, it’s not that we have to avoid all the carbs, but we just have to understand how much our body tolerates. And so that doesn’t mean like cutting it out completely. But maybe that means having like 25, 35 grams for breakfast, same amount for lunch, same amount for dinner. And then you might not crave any carbs later. And that’s great because now your body has a chance to slowly absorb that amount of carb after the meal.

Like you’re not having like all a hundred grams in one meal, you know what I’m saying? Right, right, right. If you have like 25 grams with breakfast, you absorb that. Then at lunch, you absorb that your blood sugar is not going up. And then down The hard part is when you’re going through life sometimes. Right. I’m sure with four kids you’re like,

or with your career, like, it’s hard to have the time to like put aside for breakfast and make sure it has 25, 30 grams of carbs. The first time I ate today, it’s two 18 Eastern standard time right now. And I just ate for the first time today at one o’clock That’s. Yeah. It’s just, and then last night I did the same thing and I ate,

I had rice at like nine o’clock at night because that’s all I had. That’s like leftovers I add, but I, yeah, it’s been, it’s been a journey for sure. You’re doing it. You’re doing it slowly. And you, as long as you persevere, you’re going to figure it out and get it totally down. And before you know it,

your fridges are going to be packed with things you’ve already prepared and things you’ve planned ahead for, you know, I just bring up one thing that I’ve noticed though, that I feel like is maybe you’ve experienced it too. I feel like as adults, like a lot of weight conversations come up, diet, gym, you know, those things just come up more regularly than I feel like when we were younger,

when I have those conversations with like my peers or my friends and I, it comes up like I have PCLs I feel frustrated when people don’t know what that is. And I don’t know if you experienced that. I know, I guess once it affects you, you realize, you know, how important it is to be aware of these things. But I get so frustrated and having to explain it and like what it does to my body and why I’m not able to lose weight and why I’m not able to have certain things or why I’m struggling even more with my food,

because I already had an unhealthy relationship with food prior because of my childhood and things like that. And then this on top of it, it’s very frustrating for me. So I, I want to raise awareness about PCLs, but it makes it really difficult when I’m frustrated that nobody else even has like any clue about it. Did you experience that at all?

Yeah, because it’s just no, like where is it? It’s not on TV. You know what I saw at one time in a TV show, what was it called? Well, good morning America with Leah, Michelle. Hers. Yeah. I remember. Well, Leah, Michelle has it. I heard that there was another show that had it,

But they only talk about it once every like year or every two years it comes up. And I mean, it’s not the same frustration that you’re feeling, but a lot of times people will ask us like, oh, like, like what do you do? And what is PCOM? And like, you will always explain what it is. And I totally get that frustration because it’s like,

how do people not know about this at this point? It’s just, so it goes over people’s heads. I it’s really shocking that more people don’t know about it and don’t understand the metabolic impact that it has on one in five women, in some countries, one in five. And in some countries, one in 10, that’s a lot of people who are struggling with a metabolic issue and just gaining weight without even overeating.

It’s just their metabolism. And It gets frustrating too, because the people will just go to the gym, just go to the gym. And I’m like, no, you’re not understanding what I’m saying. You’re getting frustrated because you’re not how, I guess maybe how I’m describing it is not good enough for you, or it doesn’t seem serious enough. You know?

Like, are my symptoms that I’m trying to tell you, I cannot lose weight this way, or that does not work for me or eating. Right. It’s still, it’s going to take longer than an average person for me to lose weight because of this. They just like, don’t think it’s that serious. And I’m like, Hmm. And then it affects my mental health because I can’t repeat things.

And I don’t think that part of PCOS is talked about enough. So with you, for advice in terms of situations like this, what would you say Cedar? I know I’m trying to think, like, what would I do in that scenario? I typically like, I don’t exp I mean, I try to, I explained to the best of my ability and yes,

it’s offensive when they don’t understand or like validate what I just said, because it just can’t like wrap around their head that someone could gain weight exponentially without overeating. But then I’m just like, whatever, like I’m doing all these things. I’m feeling better. Who cares what they think, as long as I’m doing me and focusing on myself and I’m happy.

Yeah. I mean, whatever you do, you then People these days are, they only understand like the main conditions. Like, if you, like, for example, if you’d said you had diabetes, people would like immediately understand and be like, oh, okay, this makes sense. But because like, peace us is a more of like a spectrum.

You know, everyone has different symptoms and it’s not as con or it’s not as talked about. People are just like it. They don’t take it as seriously. I feel. But if you’d say something that’s more widely known, like diabetes or thyroid or Hashimoto’s, I feel like people know those things. That’s where it gets tough. It’s just more awareness has to be spread.

People already know that if you have a thyroid condition, it’s harder to lose weight. Right. So if someone with a thyroid condition says, I have Hashimoto’s, they’re like, oh yeah. Okay. Well then you say PCs and they’re like, what’s that? And you explain it. They’re like, just go to the gym. Yes. You literally can someone with Hashimoto’s Like,

you would never say that to someone with any other condition or disease. So obviously if it was that simple, I would have been doing it already. You know, like we would all just be in gym. We’d all have gym memberships and doing whatever I’m like, I just got so frustrated. So I just wanted to know if that was something that you also struggled with,

but maybe yeah. Once I just, I’m not there yet. I’m still in this, like, because it’s so new to me. So I haven’t really gone through some of this, but it’s been, it’s definitely been a journey over these past. I want to say also the managing PCs is like a 24 7 thing. Like, whereas someone else would lose weight from going to the gym and just like eating generally healthy within PCLs your blood sugar control is a 24 7 thing.

Like how much protein was in your breakfast. That’s going to help stabilize your blood sugar until your next meal, which is lunch. Did you make sure that your lunches balanced and it has carbs and fiber and protein so that your blood sugar is stable until dinner so that you don’t have cravings and your mood doesn’t change or you, you don’t crave sugar and insulin resistance.

Isn’t aggravated because when it’s aggravated, that’s what triggers a lot of PCs symptoms like high testosterone, et cetera. And so we’re always thinking about it 24 7. And so I don’t expect you to go like overnight, like perfectly eating and have everything like stocked in your fridge and pantry and just like, know what to do, because it’s not as simple as like one lifestyle change.

It’s like a 24 7. Like, what am I doing for my blood sugar right now? Am I hungry? Do I have a snack in my purse? Oops, I forgot. Right. Exactly. And that’s part of everything that I was just saying when I get frustrated with people, it’s like, I don’t want to go. I don’t, I want people to understand.

So that way, when I’m like, I don’t want to get hangry. I don’t want to be, you know, energy dropped or I’m craving carbs right now. Like, I don’t want any of that. I want, I just want everyone to understand. And I, I thought that people would get it, but it seems like people have more questions because they think they have it.

Not because they don’t know what it is. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Cause it’s just, it’s a wide spectrum of symptoms. So everyone who has one symptom let’s say acne or irregular periods or whatever, like they think, okay, it might be PCO. So then they probably just come to you and be like, can you tell me by a PCs or not?

Yeah. Like I’m not a doctor. I don’t know. Like, this is my experience. I’m just trying to share with you guys advocate for yourselves. For sure. And more recently I’ve been, I’ve been hearing it being called a metabolic disorder instead of being called PCOM. I wonder if that’s a good new developing term for it, but I don’t know if people would understand that either.

If you say, oh, I have a metabolic disorder. Like, Doesn’t that sound more? Oh, your metabolism has a disorder. That means you gained weight. Like it kind of like, yeah. Yeah. I think so. I think so, because I think people would be more inclined to yeah. Metabolism. Yeah. I mean, I would automatically know kind of like what that would mean,

like my context clues. Yeah. And could you say PCOM they’re like, what is PCs? And then you tell them polycystic ovarian syndrome. And that doesn’t explain anything further now. They’re like, what does that mean? And they just like, it’s more question after another, after another and maybe just saying PCs as a metabolic, I haven’t, or you can say I have a metabolic disorder called PCO.

Yeah. That is a good way to put it. I feel like that should be the start of this podcast. So right off the bat, Honestly, I think they’re going to change the name of PCLs one day and I like read that on Google ones or you can pull it up right now. Yeah. I’m looking at us. She’s like, hold on.

I’ll have her pull up the article. Okay. Oh, in July, 2016, the new name was proposed to be metabolic reproductive syndrome. That makes sense. Because it’s kind of, while it’s covering all bases, right. Like metabolic the metabolism and also, you know, the reproductive aspect. Yeah, Yeah, exactly. The new name enhances the recognition of this major public health issue and can lead to greater educational outreach.

That’s good. Yeah. We’re onto something clearly that should have been named in the article. Right. So by the way, I know you have four kids. Do you ever try explaining PCs to them so that they’re more aware of like what you’re going through? Or maybe not yet? My older one. Yes, because he’s 11 and just wise beyond his years.

And so when he notices changes in my body or, you know, when I was having acne as an adult, that was an he’s going through puberty right now. So we, we, I did talk to him about it was like, you know, I had it too. Like I remember when mommy used to have all, all of it, like,

and I would explain it to them, my younger ones, not so much yet, but I would like to address it as they’re young, because one, it would create more awareness and two, if they know more now than they are able to kind of understand and, and just be mindful of that. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And they’ll also be more inclined to see their health as individual.

Like instead of just doing whatever they find on Google, they’ll take you as an example and there’ll be more self what’s. The word like independent, independent thinkers of like what works for them instead of just doing what their friends are doing. If their friends are cutting calories or like doing some crazy fad diet, whatever, there’ll be more self-aware. It has given me a little bit of leverage too,

when we talk about food, because I, like I told you earlier in the podcast, I haven’t always had a healthy relationship with food. And I do think that a lot of our health issues are from what we eat. So now I can be like, well, see if I eat right. This is how it will be better or worse than I can say the same for them.

Like, you know, these things will be taken care of if you eat well or, you know, if you eat well, then you maybe won’t have you go what I’m saying. I don’t want to say I don’t. I would want to specify. Cause I don’t want to like categorize anything, but you know, eating well will help you in the long run most of the time.

So we make adjustments to your diet to get results, you know, hopefully that you want, What are some symptom improvements you see after going gluten-free or dairy-free that make you motivated to continue? The dairy thing is huge. For me, I’ve noticed just, I mean, I ha I was on Accutane for a little while, but then once I started having symptoms of PCs and I got diagnosed,

it was because at that time my acne started flaring up again and I was like, well, I was on Accutane. Like what is going on? Cutting out almost all. Dairy has like my acne. I mean, I have like, my, these are moles, not pimples. I like, my acne just completely is gone again. So I’m like,

literally it was a dairy. It has to be, If only they could tell people to go dairy free before taking Accutane. If I would’ve known, you know what I mean? Like I just could not believe that that just that little change. And I, like I said, I didn’t cut it out all the way, but just like minimizing my dairy intake.

I completely don’t drink milk at all. I do have cheese here and there, but like I’m not eating cheese daily and sometimes I can go weeks without eating cheese or any kind of dairy. So I like just the way that I feel in my skin and like the texture of my skin even, and just like, I don’t have the flare ups. That’s amazing.

And there’s actual research studies showing acne and dairy correlation. So it’s, it’s a real thing that gets to improve it in research studies. I’m sorry. That’s okay. Oh, he made me a picture. Thank you. Yeah. So that was like number one. And especially when you’re on TV or social media, as you guys know, like you don’t want to have to like be trying to cover up breakouts and stuff like that.

That was the biggest one for me. Yeah. Yeah. Anytime tying takes just one bite of cheese, like let’s say we’re out. She’s like, you know what, let me just take a bite of this the next day or two days after she gets like the jawline acne, like immediately. Yup. Right in here. It was like on my neck,

mainly right here. And I was just like, it was not fun. I actually saw that on your story whenever you posted it. And I was like, I can relate like what wholeheartedly can relate to that. I should Posted next time again. I don’t post it every time. Cause I’m like, oh whatever. Like, I don’t want to see it.

You know, I don’t want to look at it and just wait a couple of days for it to go away. But I found that I was actually in denial. Like I knew dairy was not benefiting me. I knew it was affecting me. And then I was like, but just one little slice, a date. Like this was a few years ago.

I felt like one slice a day would be fine, but it was that one slice was enough to completely ruin my face and just cause all this acne one slice, one little site for me, everyone’s different, but that was enough to do it. It’s hard. It’s so hard. And sometimes I’m like, it’ll be fine and it’s not fine. It’s not fine because I don’t want one like,

feeling good for us. Like eating something that I want to eat is not worth feeling like crap for a whole week. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it’s not worth it. Who knows what that’s doing inside of us? Like forget our acne. Like what about our insights, Inflammation? That’s Exactly all this inflammation and high androgen levels. That’s going to affect our ovarian cysts,

like development that contributes to it. Inflammation, insulin at high androgens. This is a recipe for ovarian cysts. If you’re susceptible to that, which I am. So it’s like, yeah. It’s like not worth it in any way, shape or form. Not at all. What about gluten? I, I can’t really just because I haven’t cut it out all the way.

I, I don’t, I don’t know. I’m sure there are positives, but I just don’t I’m down 12 pounds. There you go. There you go. Yeah. That’s great. Are you swapping out like bread and pasta? Mainly. She pretty much cut out bread and pasta. I do eat rice. Cause I think, I think it was you that told me I could have like things that grow in the earth,

like potatoes and rice. So those are, I did have rice last night, but I try really hard not to eat like white wheat, any of it. That’s great. Yeah. Awesome. I mean, that’s step one, you know, Because I feel like I still have so much work to do. Like I, What do you feel like if you’re open to sharing?

Like what are some of the things you feel like you have work to do? I just think going completely, dairy-free going completely gluten-free and then I also am having a hard time. I don’t eat enough protein, so I’m filling it with things that I probably like, I, I had chicken and rice yesterday and definitely should have had more chicken, less rice,

but instead I had more rice, less chicken. Do you know what I mean? Like, things like that, that I, I know I can get a grip on it, but it’s just like having the willpower to like actually like prioritize what I was starving last night. I didn’t eat all day. You know what I mean? Like things like that,

where if I actually take the time I can do it, but I’m not doing it. Yeah, no, it’s hard finding the time. And honestly, I feel like it just takes sometimes two weeks of doing something to make it like a permanent habit. Like if you just do it for something for two weeks, your mind starts to make, make it a normal thing so that when you don’t,

when you don’t do it, it feels like you’re missing it. So when you don’t have time, one thing I would suggest is like for breakfast, making it like a really quick five minutes smoothly. Cause I can just take five minutes, just adding protein powder, half a banana spinach, a little fruit here and there. And then like five minutes,

you have like a smoothie and That full of protein to stabilize your blood sugar. That sounds easier than it is to do because life is just busy, but I have five minutes. I’ve timed myself. Like I I’m in a rush to in the mornings. I don’t like lollygagging with breakfast, but let me tell you a smoothie takes five minutes. And if you get like pre-made smoothie ingredient cups,

daily harvest, we use daily harvest. If you just get something like that and then add in your protein powder, like, you know, inside of it. Yeah. How was actually using daily harvest for a little while, but I didn’t think to even add things to it. Yeah. It doesn’t have Enough protein. So you want to definitely add like one to two scoops of protein into it?

I definitely cause I had the, I was using them too, but I was like, this doesn’t feel like it’s not that it wasn’t doing enough, but I think maybe I just needed to add some things. Yeah. Yeah. Because it has more like, it has more bass and fruit and more base with like coconut and like, like nuts and stuff.

So it has a lot of benefits, beneficial nutrients. It doesn’t have enough protein. That’s the only, that’s the only thing that’s lacking. In my opinion. I like the variety of flavors and I like how easy it is. Yeah. I’d like a tablespoon of chia seeds. Those are really good for PCLs very high in healthy fats, protein, fiber Long scoop of almond butter helps too with protein and healthy fats,

Protein, chia seeds, almond butter, or any other nut butter. I, for some reason I had, I had cut up bananas cause I thought they were too high in carbs is that You can put half a banana, but I think daily harvest already has bananas in there or other sort of like fruits or yeah. Other fruits or you don’t have to necessarily,

It varies definitely berries. They have. Okay. But how about bananas in general? Not speaking so much on the smoothie. I don’t have to cut up bananas, Like to say half a banana. If you’re going to cause a full ban, it can be like too much carbs, too much sugar. That’s going to be processed in the body. Anyone how sensitive insulin sensitive you are.

And it sounds like you’re struggling with insulin resistance. I would just do half a banana for now and then increase it as you, your insulin sensitivity improves if you want to. So there you have a quick and easy breakfast that you just throw together every morning for two weeks and your body will just get used to you’ll expect it in the mornings. And now this is like one of the biggest,

best, first steps in managing PCLs. Yeah, Totally. Totally. Do you feel like if you could, because I’m guilty of skipping breakfast a lot, like out of seven days I skipped breakfast. Well I skipped breakfast every single day. So do you think that this would be helpful in like balancing the rest of my day? I get on wheel down.

I can start doing the same for the other. Yeah. Breakfast sets up your day. That is the step one. What is my blood sugar and sugar going to be today? Okay. Stable or unstable, But yeah. So just for anyone who’s listening to, like if you don’t have daily harvest or you want to just start from scratch, just keep it very simple.

Spinach, half a banana protein pot, protein powder, and enough butter. Those four ingredients are I feel good. All you need to just start your day and then set you up for lunch dinner, et cetera. Yeah. Okay. And do you have, do you have any other questions for us kale? No. I feel like I follow your story so much and everyone’s been recommending like all kinds of like influencers and stuff who are knowledgeable on PCLs and I just think that that’s just been super helpful on like a day to,

especially whenever I’m like feeling like I have a crappy day, as far as like eating or like anything PCs related, I literally will go reread everything on your Instagram. Like I will just go like reread everything and be like, okay, I’m not crazy. Yeah. I messed up on this, but I’m going to get back to it tomorrow. Like it’s just the little thing.

So I do, I really appreciate your Instagram so much and I’ll just keep sharing it for people because they need to know. And I want, I hope that we can get all of this under control and people who don’t know if they have PCLs can go on your page and get the info and do what they need to do. Because I swear for a whole year I was like,

what is wrong with me? Right know, like could not figure it out. And I never in a million years would have thought PCLs ever. Yeah. And that diagnosis can be a blessing in disguise. Of course we know that PCUSA, isn’t a blessing in disguise, but just being diagnosed can be a blessing in disguise because you finally know what’s going on.

And yet you finally can try to figure out the next best step. So totally understand what you’re saying. And you can prevent a lot of diseases and chronic conditions from even developing later on in your life because you’re taking control of like blood sugar and stress management, which are key. These are things that trigger lots of different diseases and you’re preventing them by controlling it for your PCLs early on.

I definitely will say that the birth control thing felt like a bandaid where like we’ve talked about a hundred times, like healing, your body from the inside out is actually like a solution to the problem versus, you know, a bandaid. Yeah. Yeah, Absolutely. You’re doing great kale. I’m going to take a video of myself making this for breakfast and I’m going to tag you guys that way.

Maybe people will see how like, if it’s, you know, easy, I can make it quick and maybe other people will be like, okay, well we’ll start our day. Good too. Awesome. I can’t wait for part three. Yeah. And then is there any, anything we can promote from your end? Like yeah, No, I’d rather,

Nope. I’m good where we’re at and I can’t wait for people to hear this episode. Okay. Awesome. Thank you so much again for joining us. I thank you all for listening. We’ll be back with another episode next week and thank you Kayla. We appreciate it. If you enjoyed listening to this podcast, you have to come check out the sisterhood.

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